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25-12-02 14:47:22: Melissa: Morning Despina!
25-12-02 14:47:47: Detlef: morning
25-12-02 14:51:30: Adela: How's everyone today?
25-12-02 14:52:58: Bernd: Just trying to stay cozy and warm. How're you, Adela?
25-12-02 14:53:47: Adela: :nods, "Sipping on my coffee, getting my place all pinesmelly good."
25-12-02 14:55:06: Melissa: I am not prepared for world consumption.
25-12-02 14:55:24: Adela: Make it walk the plank.
25-12-02 14:59:46: Bernd: I've been up since 3:30am. Did things around the house, watched a movie, made breakfast, and shoveled snow. Now I'm just being lazy and trying to decide whether to see if egg nog makes for an acceptable coffee creamer or not. I haven't given into the dark voices telling me to try it yet, but I may.
25-12-02 15:00:23: Adela: I'd imagine it probably does.
25-12-02 15:00:41: Adela: I used coffee creamer for cereal once.
25-12-02 15:00:54: Melissa: It just started snowing again.
25-12-02 15:01:24: Ada: That sounds astonishingly productive, Bernd.
25-12-02 15:02:20: Bernd: I think it probably would too, Adela.
25-12-02 15:02:35: Bernd: It was productive. I took the dog out so he could lay in the snow for a few minutes. He kept me out there for nearly an hour.
25-12-02 15:04:07: Adela: It was a rare experience that it snowed last year here in SE Georgia.  She hadn't seen snow since we were in DC.  She was bouncing around like a drunk.
25-12-02 15:07:39: Bernd: That's really cute.
25-12-02 15:07:54: Adela: But there shant be snow this year
25-12-02 15:08:04: Adela: Or for the next 30 years, probably
25-12-02 15:08:11: Detlef: :yawns.
25-12-02 15:09:05: Ada: Oh, Detlef, you have a room now. :D
25-12-02 15:09:41: Detlef: yay finally somewhere to put my books
25-12-02 15:15:57: Ada: There's probably a bit of similarity between Detlef and Theon, except one is anxious and the other a curmudgeon.
25-12-02 15:16:17: Eliza: Well now I have to make them become best friends
25-12-02 15:17:00: Bernd: If we can get three more like them but with different personalities we might be able to combine them into one giant robot.
25-12-02 15:17:55: Detlef: super nerd robot
25-12-02 15:18:27: Koline: Nerds... in MY empire...
25-12-02 15:19:20: Bernd: If the empire will not accept the nerds, then Bernd and his lands will gladly take them in.
25-12-02 15:19:41: Adela: They'll have so many things
25-12-02 15:19:43: Koline: :declares the empire to be officially jocks.
25-12-02 15:19:59: Bernd: Perfect. I will take all of the nerds! To the canal, nerds!
25-12-02 16:22:30: Udo: Morning all
25-12-02 16:22:39: Ada: Hey, Udo!
25-12-02 16:23:09: Udo: It is a very hot cocoa morning where I'm at. 31 degrees outside.
25-12-02 16:24:08: Eliza: ooo hot chocolate is a good idea
25-12-02 16:24:52: Melissa: My activities room is set to 85, it is 50. Understandably none of the old people will enter it. it is 14 outside though so 50 is better than out there!
25-12-02 16:32:13: Bernd: About 20 here. The wind's zesty.
25-12-02 16:37:24: Udo: It gets to the mid 20s here at night, but stays mid to low 30s during the day, and the weather models indicate it's going to get worse.
25-12-02 16:40:08: Bernd: Sounds like a perfect time to cozy up with a blanket, some hot chocolate, and put The Shining on.
25-12-02 16:42:39: Udo: I've been on a Giallo horror kick lately.
25-12-02 16:43:22: Koline: Il Shining, then.
25-12-02 17:14:23: Emil: Hello, world.
25-12-02 17:14:48: Adela: Salutations
25-12-02 17:15:39: Ada: Hey, Emil!
25-12-02 17:15:51: Emil: How is all?
25-12-02 17:19:49: Ada: I'm doing well. Sounds like everyone else is dealing with incessant cold today.
25-12-02 17:20:18: Detlef: indeed
25-12-02 17:21:06: Adela: and the smell of fresh pine permeating in my home while I contemplate baking cookies.
25-12-02 17:21:12: Bernd: Hello, Emil.
25-12-02 17:22:12: Sigitas: :steals cookies.
25-12-02 17:22:31: Adela: :holds out a box of cookies to Sigitas.
25-12-02 17:22:59: Sigitas: yay cookies
25-12-02 17:23:18: Emil: Cookies!
25-12-02 17:23:41: Emil: It is quite cold, which is why my lunch was a toasted cheese sandwich.
25-12-02 17:28:27: Udo: :offers cocoa.
25-12-02 17:28:37: Emil: COCOA.
25-12-02 17:28:52: Emil: I'm out of cocoa, so that would be delightful.
25-12-02 17:29:54: Adela: I kind of want some warm apple cider
25-12-02 17:30:28: Emil: Yesssss
25-12-02 17:36:21: Ada: I sometimes need to adjust when I read that because cider here is alcoholic.
25-12-02 17:37:02: Udo: There's plenty of alcoholic cider in the US as well.
25-12-02 17:37:14: Emil: We HAVE hard cider, but I admit my favorite is non-alcoholic with mulling spices.
25-12-02 17:39:02: Udo: The best non-alcoholic cider I've ever had came from Germany. It's called Jörg Inspiration 4.6.
25-12-02 17:42:19: Ada: My client ate the middle of that word but I expect Germany's full of tasty things for the time of year. Marzipan! I've only ever been in the country between July and September.
25-12-02 17:42:19: Sigitas: :lives close to the origin of Hessian cider
25-12-02 17:43:56: Udo: I really need to visit my European relatives. I've got aunts, uncles, and cousins in both Germany and the UK.
25-12-02 17:46:52: Ada: Getting around inside Europe is quick and cheap, which is great. I put an 'everywhere' search into Skyscanner there for this weekend, for example, and I could do an impromptu trip to Milan and back for 58 euro.
25-12-02 17:48:15: Emil: :sadface.
25-12-02 17:48:19: Ada: Transatlantic is a bit of a nuisance though. Still, once you get across the ocean and if you have time, well worth doing.
25-12-02 17:48:31: Emil: I couldn't go to North Carolina and back for 60bucks.
25-12-02 17:51:02: Ada: European travel costs are kept low by an airline, Ryanair, which has a business model of providing a timely but otherwise rubbish service for rock-bottom prices.
25-12-02 17:51:18: Udo: I would need to be able to bounce between Caerphilly, Wales, and both Bremen & Hanover in Germany.
25-12-02 17:54:07: Ada: Bremen has a beautiful old town. Never been to Hanover. As for Caerphilly, some great Roman sites not very far from there. No idea about Caerphilly itself.
25-12-02 17:56:09: Udo: I am told by my uncle that Caerphilly will make a person regret owning a car because the quality of drivers there is incredibly low. Other than that, it looks wonderful from the pictures family send.
25-12-02 17:57:15: Ada: lol. I was almost run over on the green in Caerleon once, but that was kids driving a scrambler through on a Sunday afternoon.
25-12-02 17:57:18: Adela: Well, the cider I'm speaking of will absolutely have spiced rum in it.
25-12-02 17:59:15: Ada: Anyway, you can fly for next to nothing from Cardiff or Bristol to the continent.
25-12-02 18:00:10: Sigitas: :loves Marzipan
25-12-02 18:00:13: Ada: Is this Adela the player cider or Adela the character cider? Could go both ways.
25-12-02 18:05:14: Adela: Por que no los dos? >_>
25-12-02 18:05:36: Sabine: :kicks down the door.
25-12-02 18:06:57: Udo: I always look forward to my yearly Christmas package from my German family. They all get together to ship it in one larger package to save on costs, and it's usually full of German candy and snacks (and my uncle usually sneaks some random SV Werder Bremen FC thing into the box).
25-12-02 18:07:25: Detlef: :is glad he doesn't have to pay that bill.
25-12-02 18:07:48: Sabine: The story timeline only goes up to first ten entries visible. I feel this is inadequate.
25-12-02 18:08:06: Ada: Yeah I need to think on how to do that. 'chapter' shows the lot.
25-12-02 18:08:29: Ada: Maybe if I just show all of them for the current chapter or book but truncate it for others.
25-12-02 18:13:39: Ada: German food in general is always solid.
25-12-02 18:23:56: Sabine: I mean the only thing I would ask that if we are going to keep a 10 listing limit, which is fair. We either add a pager or make it most recent 10?
25-12-02 18:27:40: Sabine: Or just tell me i must suffer. >=)
25-12-02 18:29:29: Ada: It actually shows 10 per chapter as is, which is not great structuring on my part. I'll adjust it a bit. I also at some point have mislaid my 'code to adjust' note in case there's something else I was going to adjust.
25-12-02 18:42:15: Sabine: Oh no. ;_;
25-12-02 18:46:03: Melissa: I need someone to bring me coffee.
25-12-02 18:46:14: Sabine: MELISSA.
25-12-02 18:46:26: Sabine: I have crossed oceans of time to be with you.
25-12-02 18:47:11: Melissa: But did you bring the coffee?
25-12-02 18:47:52: Sabine: Just like a whole box of k-cups.
25-12-02 18:48:00: Adela: :invites Sabine on her sailboat to bring coffee.
25-12-02 23:01:32: Tamar: :waves!
25-12-02 23:03:01: Ada: Hey, Tamar!
25-12-02 23:03:28: Sabine: Hello
25-12-02 23:06:07: Tamar: :had severe bronchitis. :(
25-12-02 23:06:23: Ada: I hope you're doing better now.
25-12-02 23:06:52: Tamar: I am, thank you! My boss already called me into work, too. lol
25-12-02 23:11:49: Ada: I'm glad to hear it. If you'd like a hook or two to get into things here, do let me know.
25-12-02 23:13:55: Tamar: Well, I was trying to think of something to explain her absence.
25-12-02 23:14:41: Ada: 'I was at home'. Really don't need any explanations!
25-12-02 23:15:01: Tamar: That works! lol
25-12-02 23:19:47: Ada: Cool! Beyond that, Kothar's rostered for now, so if you need any head of house interactions or guidances, ask away, I'll treat him as an NPC.
25-12-02 23:23:15: Tamar: Ok thanks!
25-12-02 23:25:14: Sabine: I am also here, hidden away.
25-12-02 23:25:32: Sabine: Not your head of house, just a really cool lady.
25-12-02 23:27:12: Tamar: :grins.
25-12-02 23:30:30: Sabine: :poses, byronically on the rampart over the sea.
25-12-02 23:33:31: Adela: :sails past
25-12-02 23:34:14: Bogdan: :makes seagull noises.  "Caw. Caw."
25-12-02 23:34:24: Adela: Bogcaw bogcaw
25-12-02 23:34:38: Bogdan: That's better.  Glad we workshop these, Adela.
25-12-02 23:34:59: Adela: I am nothing if not moderate at my job and workshopping.
25-12-02 23:39:00: Sabine: https://youtu.be/TXwCvIaVNFc?si=Dh9PsnKUl0qvBgYL
25-12-02 23:40:45: Sabine: Actual image of Bogdan
25-12-02 23:42:38: Bogdan: It's uncanny.
25-12-02 23:46:33: Dietrich: Yo
25-12-02 23:46:56: Sabine: The terrifying Bogbird
25-12-02 23:47:02: Sabine: Also, hello Deets.
25-12-02 23:48:04: Ada: ;steers Tamar towards Dietrich.
25-12-02 23:52:25: Sabine: Oh, like a chicken fight? Quick Deets, get on my shoulders.
25-12-02 23:53:15: Ada: No, they just have similar brands of chaos. :D
25-12-02 23:53:27: Ada: Which might involve a chicken fight, granted.
25-12-02 23:53:30: Dietrich: Tamar towards me?
25-12-02 23:54:05: Dietrich: I am down for being steered to.
25-12-02 23:56:34: Dietrich: :considers. "I suppose she could be my first ex-wife. It should only be a political issue. Or, we could just throw parties."
25-12-03 00:06:25: Ada: There's a nice spot in the Tower of Valon for it.
25-12-03 00:08:48: Sabine: The parties or the ex-wives?
25-12-03 00:09:00: Ada: The parties.
25-12-03 00:09:53: Sabine: Oh good, was about to say that isn't what the companions tower means.
25-12-03 00:12:06: Melissa: :flops and melts.
25-12-03 00:12:44: Sabine: Hello Melissa.
25-12-03 00:13:57: Dietrich: :asides to Sabine, "She meant both."
25-12-03 00:14:17: Dietrich: :looks at the Mel puddle. "Kindly don't stain my boots."
25-12-03 00:14:23: Melissa: Hello Sabine!
25-12-03 00:14:41: Melissa: I can't determine what my puddle will do.
25-12-03 00:16:54: Sabine: Stain things, apparently.
25-12-03 00:17:08: Sabine: Cheer me on for my final
25-12-03 00:17:13: Sabine: :checks clock.
25-12-03 00:17:20: Sabine: Two hours of workday.
25-12-03 00:29:04: Dietrich: I should be working on a work report.
25-12-03 00:29:10: Dietrich: /Should/
25-12-03 00:30:19: Adela: :double thumbs down
25-12-03 00:32:09: Melissa: I think Sabine got me sick.
25-12-03 00:33:44: Alethea: is there any way to format the body of a mail message or is it just one big great blob? also, hello everyone, sorry for work sabine, sorry for your report, dietrich. actually, i am generally sorry anyone has to work ever.
25-12-03 00:41:48: Dietrich: No one sends me letters soooooo....
25-12-03 00:42:46: Ada: You could write it in notepad then add all the % r and so on retroactively and delete the new lines.
25-12-03 00:47:22: Alethea: Okay. :) I wasn't sure if it accepted formatting at all! Someone will just have to be my guinea pig and ignore any formatting errors I execute. Thank you, Ada.
25-12-03 00:47:50: Melissa: Honestly I wrote myself to see the format lol
25-12-03 00:48:00: Ada: You could think it at yourself.
25-12-03 00:52:42: Dietrich: I never considered the formatting wouldn't work.
25-12-03 00:57:08: Ada: Dietrich lives on the edge.
25-12-03 00:57:35: Melissa: I just wanted to see if a title was really needed. It wasnt
25-12-03 00:58:26: Dietrich: It's true.
25-12-03 00:59:20: Dietrich: ... did... did I just get IC spam mail.. LOL
25-12-03 01:01:05: Irreth: Was it talking about a foreign Wend princess who needs your help to transfer money?
25-12-03 01:01:17: Dietrich: ... yes?
25-12-03 01:01:24: Dietrich: I was sending Melissa's money.
25-12-03 01:04:02: Irreth: Apt!
25-12-03 01:15:10: Dietrich: I hear it's all the rage to spend her money.
25-12-03 01:17:37: Ada: So that update ran on a bit. :D
25-12-03 01:18:11: Ada: Trying to sum up 6 hours of events. Anyway, the first paragraph gets the big picture.
25-12-03 01:19:22: Dietrich: Lord Dietrich Otrese also took the field, the latter taking the rather unusual step of setting a monster alight with alcohol.
25-12-03 01:19:28: Dietrich: That is all that was needed.
25-12-03 01:20:20: Irreth: That made me laugh. Especially given the scene I had yesterday with Urumil where he arrived hung over talking about him and Dietrich hanging out. I know who's the /real/ bad influence there.
25-12-03 01:20:48: Ada: Hee. I'm looking forward to Urumil and Dietrich's outing.
25-12-03 01:21:48: Irreth: Me too! Just so I can hear the stories after.
25-12-03 01:22:25: Dietrich: Psh. Telling me there is no formal pirate clothing or pirate names.
25-12-03 01:23:38: Dietrich: My favorite of the 'combat' is picturing Ada at their computer going . "..." -- "..." -- what do I even make him roll for that as I didn't see that coming.
25-12-03 01:26:45: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-03 01:28:13: Ada: It was especially surprising when Dietrich had spent the skirmish up until that point running about. :D
25-12-03 01:28:31: Dietrich: You know. Chaos.
25-12-03 01:28:43: Dietrich: I'm taking catnip next time.
25-12-03 01:30:06: Ada: Bring it to the pirates, just to see what happens.
25-12-03 01:31:37: Dietrich: :researches ogre catnip.
25-12-03 01:32:05: Alethea: it's goats
25-12-03 01:32:14: Alethea: wait no that's for dragons
25-12-03 01:35:24: Ada: Bring along a butcher's shop.
25-12-03 01:45:52: Ada: Welcome, Arnulf!
25-12-03 01:45:57: Dietrich: It's donkeys
25-12-03 01:46:51: Ada: You know, Lord Farquaad was very honest.
25-12-03 01:48:17: Melissa: Hello Arnulf!
25-12-03 01:48:32: Irreth: Welcome Arnulf!
25-12-03 01:51:18: Adela: Welcome
25-12-03 01:59:10: Arnulf: thanks all.  Learning commands is hard
25-12-03 02:00:32: Melissa: We are all still very much learning commands.
25-12-03 02:00:34: Dietrich: It is
25-12-03 02:00:38: Dietrich: I am.
25-12-03 02:00:48: Melissa: You just missed the hour long discussion on how to send a messenger.
25-12-03 02:01:50: Adela: We are
25-12-03 02:01:52: Ada: Although it could use tidying, the stuff in 'help' is fairly comprehensive, though to the point that much of it is unnecessary.
25-12-03 02:02:27: Ada: I noted a few things at https://empiremush.org/information/how-to-play/ though it's probably missing some obvious ones.
25-12-03 02:02:33: Emil: Hello, world.
25-12-03 02:02:39: Ada: Hey, Emil!
25-12-03 02:03:52: Dietrich: Hi
25-12-03 02:05:02: Emil: How is the evening treating you?
25-12-03 02:18:44: Sabine: :gets home.
25-12-03 02:23:24: Sabine: Melissaaaaaaa
25-12-03 02:44:26: Melissa: Sabineeeeeeee
25-12-03 02:46:09: Sabine: <3
25-12-03 02:53:47: Sabine: What are we doing Melissa?
25-12-03 02:55:43: Dietrich: Hosting a party
25-12-03 02:57:04: Melissa: I was debating between making my new December phone case or sending myself to bed because I havent been sleeping well and now I have a fever.
25-12-03 02:57:18: Sabine: Oh no.
25-12-03 02:57:25: Melissa: I dont follow directions well when its myself telling me to do things.
25-12-03 02:57:26: Antigone: Same thing you do every night? (Im sorry about the fever!)
25-12-03 02:57:29: Ada: Ahhhh. Get lots of sleep!
25-12-03 02:57:57: Melissa: Adult me now knows that Pinky was the smart one after all.
25-12-03 02:58:12: Antigone: Pinky knew what was up
25-12-03 02:59:25: Sabine: Melissa, go get better. -_-
25-12-03 03:00:09: Bernd: :starts preparing the drugs, "It sounds like Melissa needs to go on a vision quest."
25-12-03 03:00:41: Antigone: No, sleep quest
25-12-03 03:00:51: Antigone: RestQuest
25-12-03 03:05:57: Dietrich: :tucks Mellie in.
25-12-03 03:11:14: Melissa: When I made gardening Melissa's hobby I had no idea her name meant honeybee.
25-12-03 03:12:13: Dietrich: :starts to say something. Stops. Pages.
25-12-03 03:13:54: Melissa: Ok, really going to go lay down now. <3!
25-12-03 03:14:01: Sabine: Go sleep Melissa.
25-12-03 03:35:21: Dietrich: I'm finishing my report and eating pop daddy popcorn
25-12-03 03:38:16: Sabine: Are you the pop daddy?
25-12-03 03:38:27: Dietrich: ...
25-12-03 03:38:42: Dietrich: I want to answer that one way, but no, it's a popcorn company
25-12-03 03:39:01: Sabine: ^_^
25-12-03 14:18:31: Detlef: :waves
25-12-03 14:18:42: Melissa: Morning!
25-12-03 14:23:54: Ada: How's Wednesday treating you?
25-12-03 14:37:15: Melissa: Still a little too early to tell!
25-12-03 14:49:28: Detlef: just another greyish day over here
25-12-03 14:50:24: Melissa: Its snowing again here
25-12-03 14:55:08: Detlef: we had 2 days of light snow here bet that's all of it for the winter
25-12-03 15:04:29: Ada: Hasn't snowed here yet, might not at all.
25-12-03 15:06:31: Melissa: It will be my first time driving in active snowfall!
25-12-03 15:18:50: Ada: I'm going to really show my Europeaness here, but I never even got a driver's licence.
25-12-03 15:21:35: Melissa: My sister doesnt have hers either, though thats more because she is too scared to and not because she doesnt need it.
25-12-03 15:22:38: Melissa: Unfortunately its almost impossible in a majority of places here to not have it, places are far too spread out and there is a lack of public transportation in a majority of places.
25-12-03 15:23:09: Ada: Moving a tonne of metal around at high speeds while thousands of other people do the same around you is, of things to be worried about, probably fairly reasonable.
25-12-03 15:23:56: Ada: But yeah, I'm in walking distance to my work and the city centre, and use public transport if I need to go elsewhere.
25-12-03 15:24:16: Melissa: That is a very valid concern, people are idiots.
25-12-03 15:25:26: Melissa: Since moving to Minnesota I have determined that while most are lovely people, they are the worst drivers in the world and have no concept of a zipper merge.
25-12-03 15:25:32: Udo: My town is small enough that if I got a decent bike, I'd never need a car.
25-12-03 15:26:46: Ada: All I know about Minnesota comes from How I Met Your Mother.
25-12-03 15:31:32: Melissa: I never watched it so you know more about Minnesota than I do!
25-12-03 15:56:37: Ada: It has a character from Minnesota and occasional Minnesota jokes.
25-12-03 15:57:09: Ada: It's also not particularly worth watching.
25-12-03 15:57:52: Bogdan: :aws. I love HIMYM.  Some of it doesn't age well, but.
25-12-03 15:58:10: Ada: The first three or four series remain fun.
25-12-03 16:01:01: Bogdan: The finale ruins it, so the alternate finale is my true finale.
25-12-03 16:02:13: Ada: For sure. Sometimes writers seem to feel they have to make stories not end in the anticipated way even if the anticipated way would be a better story.
25-12-03 16:10:26: Bogdan: And I think the problem with HIMYM is that was how they planned to end it, so they did, even though Milotti was so knock-your-socks-off charming.
25-12-03 16:13:02: Ada: At least she stopped it from going from Marshall and a group of jerks to just a group of jerks. (Although at least one was played by Neil Patrick Harris)
25-12-03 16:13:28: Bogdan: Yeah.  They made everyone insufferable by the end.
25-12-03 16:13:50: Bogdan: At the beginning, you sort of saw why girls might like Ted.  By the end, Milotti bailed him out, but otherwise, why?
25-12-03 16:14:24: Ada: The show presents Barney as awful and plays it for laughs, without ever quite acknowledging just how nasty Ted is.
25-12-03 16:14:53: Detlef: they still keep repeating it here on TV cause in Europe they don't have their own sitcoms
25-12-03 16:14:54: Despina: Oh yeah, Ted was the worst
25-12-03 16:15:29: Ada: I'll take UK-made ones instead. Got Keeping Up Appearances on DVD last Christmas!
25-12-03 16:47:05: Melissa: At this point I just rewatch Taskmaster episodes and rarely watch actual tv series.
25-12-03 17:30:07: Claudia: The Rose Salon's room descriptions are very pretty!
25-12-03 17:30:41: Ada: Courtesy of the description fairy rather than me!
25-12-03 17:32:55: Bogdan: Claudia herself, however, is a blank slate!
25-12-03 17:33:00: Despina: It comes in while everyone's sleeping and decorates
25-12-03 17:35:04: Ada: She wrote most character descriptions, though just that bit of the grid. If we're all lucky, she'll do more decoration.
25-12-03 17:35:15: Ada: Claudia will get a description soon. :D
25-12-03 17:36:51: Claudia: Better yet never give her a description and every scene I can walk in wearing wigs and never look the same twice.
25-12-03 17:37:44: Despina: I use to have a trigger set on a char that would change her desc everytime I logged on so it was always different.  The set up was a lot of writing, but the payoff was worth it.
25-12-03 17:38:07: Claudia: That sounds fun!
25-12-03 17:38:30: Despina: It was like opening a birthday gift every day
25-12-03 18:04:42: Sabine: :sneeze
25-12-03 18:06:58: Ada: I hope you didn't catch a cold again!
25-12-03 18:18:43: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-03 18:28:27: Sabine: I am for the most part over the cold, yes. ^_^
25-12-03 18:28:44: Sabine: Also, I always miss the guests.
25-12-03 18:29:12: Detlef: they fear the sword
25-12-03 18:41:51: Sabine: Just a lil weird to have so many logon/logoffs lately.
25-12-03 18:42:46: Ada: Yeah I don't get it really. There's not much to be gleaned from looking in the game unless the who list is very interesting.
25-12-03 18:43:27: Bogdan: It helps judge activity, admittedly.
25-12-03 18:45:53: Sabine: It has been happening on the other place I monitor too, so like, I dunno.
25-12-03 18:46:06: Ada: It does. Admittedly I don't even know what non-Ares games are going that aren't World of Darkness nowadays, so the bar for activity is on the floor since it doesn't exist.
25-12-03 18:46:41: Bogdan: Totally.
25-12-03 18:47:00: Dietrich: :waves.
25-12-03 18:47:05: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
25-12-03 18:47:22: Dietrich: Hey!
25-12-03 18:47:41: Sabine: I do like how Ada's story post implies that there is some sort of bizzaro world out there where House Lindner doesn't show up the instant they hear 'Fight.'
25-12-03 18:50:27: Dietrich: I'm eating cheese sticks for lunch. I deem this a good adult decision.
25-12-03 18:51:11: Sabine: Just deep fry them first and it becomes socially acceptable.
25-12-03 18:51:21: Dietrich: I airfried them
25-12-03 18:52:44: Dietrich: They are also breaded.
25-12-03 18:52:57: Eliza: Man that sounds good. All I've had today is oatmeal.
25-12-03 18:52:59: Dietrich: >.>
25-12-03 18:53:22: Dietrich: :shares. "This is all I had and only because I was like RAWR FOOD"
25-12-03 18:53:33: Sabine: Go, be free Eliza, get that Moz.
25-12-03 19:21:25: Eliza: I wish. I haven't gone shopping since Thanksgiving I am living on rice and pasta right now.
25-12-03 19:22:22: Dietrich: I'm going to need an alt that's all rawr fight grr.
25-12-03 19:23:01: Dietrich: I just went Eliza, which is why I got some unhealthy food. And meat. Grr (or something)
25-12-03 19:26:31: Detlef: I just went with an alt that is not as combaty as my main lol
25-12-03 19:28:40: Dietrich: Dietrich is not combaty.
25-12-03 19:55:33: Sabine: Deets is very combatry if he believes in himself.
25-12-03 19:56:16: Dietrich: I always believe in myself
25-12-03 19:57:16: Sabine: I super believe in you Tad Cooper.
25-12-03 20:09:21: Dietrich: Also, I wouldn't say my cat is spoiled, but I did just go out and buy him a heated throw today.
25-12-03 20:11:42: Bernadine: Hee hee. The heated throw I have is for me ... but I leave it on for the cats
25-12-03 20:12:43: Dietrich: I have one but I was like, you know, he needs one too.
25-12-03 20:13:29: Dietrich: He looked at it like it was sus when I put him on it. Then he realized it was warm and curled up and started purring. So I think he's down.
25-12-03 20:15:38: Dietrich: I should also go try to find some RP make some connections.
25-12-03 20:22:09: Sabine: I will kill over my heated blankets.
25-12-03 20:36:10: Eliza: I am combatry as long as we're talking about dance battles and who can last longer with shots. And not the arrow kind of shots. The alcohol kind of shots.
25-12-03 20:37:40: Dietrich: I'm just creative with using my skillset for a weapon.
25-12-03 20:37:55: Dietrich: If the whim strikes
25-12-03 20:40:26: Sabine: I plan on rectifying this by giving Eliza a series of increasingly sized swords.
25-12-03 20:41:48: Ada: Eliza has a wholly functional surprise sister for that sort of battle.
25-12-03 20:42:38: Dietrich: I would like swords please.
25-12-03 20:42:52: Sabine: :gives Deets a sword.
25-12-03 20:43:02: Dietrich: :juggles it and then tosses it.
25-12-03 20:43:37: Dietrich: Now I just need magic that we don't talk about so Sabine doesn't hunt me.
25-12-03 20:44:18: Dietrich: 'Illusions' for the best parties
25-12-03 20:44:27: Dietrich: :obviously a bard.
25-12-03 20:46:00: Sabine: Oh I mean i won't personally hunt you for magic.
25-12-03 20:46:36: Sabine: I am just pretty sure that like outside of god touched trying to study magic gets you the serious side eye
25-12-03 20:47:10: Bernadine: mew
25-12-03 20:47:36: Dietrich: :puts Bernadine on the heated blanket with his cat.
25-12-03 20:47:42: Sabine: Or at least that was the read i potentially got the wrong impression from the lore.
25-12-03 20:47:54: Sabine: :gives Bernadine a fish, also a sword.
25-12-03 20:48:20: Bernadine: my hubby ordered food and shoved it all ib my hands at onve help
25-12-03 20:49:21: Dietrich: I really should re-read lore and also put in for the God's being touched by my humble nature IC and my alcohol as a weapons skills.
25-12-03 20:50:37: Sabine: Bernadine, how big can you open your mouth?
25-12-03 20:50:49: Dietrich: ...
25-12-03 20:50:52: Dietrich: Nope
25-12-03 20:50:57: Dietrich: Nope that is bait, just nope
25-12-03 20:51:56: Bernadine: Not big enough to devour three sodas, two large fries, and several hamburgers.
25-12-03 20:53:16: Bernadine: Majority of which was for him, but now has been situated so my hands are free once more.
25-12-03 20:53:45: Bernadine: It is a cosmic unfairity that my husband can eat enough for two people yet I'm the one who gains weight -.-
25-12-03 20:54:02: Bogdan: Beat him up and steal his metabolism.
25-12-03 20:55:15: Bernadine: i would diablerize him in a minute to steal his metabolism if i could
25-12-03 20:55:21: Dietrich: I'm a forget to eat or eat small meals type of person (mainly because I forget to eat so much). The person I live with orders 2 meals at a time, eats them in five minutes and is where they should be build wise.
25-12-03 20:55:33: Sabine: Ah your alternative was to channel your inner hamster.
25-12-03 20:57:16: Bernadine: I never eat a whole lot, but used to primarily eat high calorie meals when I did eat. Relearning to eat in your late 30s is hell.
25-12-03 20:57:34: Dietrich: It is.
25-12-03 20:57:41: Sabine: I just got fat.
25-12-03 20:57:56: Dietrich: I'm a high protein person who has a sick fascination with macros.
25-12-03 20:58:26: Dietrich: It's winter insulating. You were planning ahead.
25-12-03 20:58:32: Bernadine: I did high protein for a while and all I managed was to gain more weight. So now I focus on fiber and other stuff.
25-12-03 20:59:04: Bernadine: Mmmhmm, I have that convo with the hubby often. He complains about being cold and I tell him it's because he's so skinny. No insulation, be cold!
25-12-03 20:59:21: Sabine: Tell him to pit on a sweater.
25-12-03 20:59:41: Bernadine: He has a mobile blanket
25-12-03 20:59:49: Dietrich: Not that I think anyone should or has to change any body type. Let me put that out there. Self-love is the best love where you are at the moment. -- That said, I think (personally) it's better to just eat whole foods (not the store) and don't restrict too much. Find your balance, your bliss and your happy. Screw the haters.
25-12-03 21:00:10: Bernadine: why the dog *I* rescued and he didn't even want is obsessed with him
25-12-03 21:00:17: Bogdan: :eats the store.
25-12-03 21:00:25: Bernadine: oh dear
25-12-03 21:00:27: Dietrich: You can if you can afford it.
25-12-03 21:00:33: Bogdan: :now reads the rest of Dietrich's message and oopses.
25-12-03 21:00:45: Melissa: I've lost the Christmas light bulb replacements.
25-12-03 21:00:52: Bernadine: oh no
25-12-03 21:00:58: Dietrich: Oh no. Get more?
25-12-03 21:01:00: Sabine: Take that out of your mouth Bogdan.
25-12-03 21:01:18: Dietrich: I still have to put up the tree, but then I have to move furniture first so there's that.
25-12-03 21:01:19: Bernadine: brick isn't good for you bogdan
25-12-03 21:01:31: Bernadine: our tree is up but there is nothing on it
25-12-03 21:01:32: Sabine: Melissa, just use paperclips to complete the circuit. Totally safe.
25-12-03 21:01:43: Dietrich: Don't listen to them Bogdan, live your best life
25-12-03 21:02:34: Melissa: I've already made the electricity smell once, Sabine. I can do it again.
25-12-03 21:03:47: Sabine: Ozone is good for the environment Melissa!
25-12-03 21:03:51: Melissa: Or so someone said. I have no sense of smell so when someone says something smells bad I just believe them.
25-12-03 21:04:24: Sabine: Also, I hope you are feeling better today.
25-12-03 21:05:22: Dietrich: You smell like roses, Melissa
25-12-03 21:09:11: Melissa: I am and I do!
25-12-03 21:28:53: Sabine: We need a seer or something named Clarissa.
25-12-03 21:33:13: Dietrich: I sort of miss first impressions.
25-12-03 21:33:53: Bogdan: She can . . . explain it all?
25-12-03 21:42:32: Sabine: :nods to Bogdan.
25-12-03 21:43:15: Sabine: My attempt to collect the most ridiculous first impressions possible is one the few things I remember of Arx.
25-12-03 21:45:26: Sabine: That and sliding around one nobles home because I was wearing socks, and everyone sort of being weirded by it whil I was just going 'Who the heck wears shoes in someone else's house?'
25-12-03 21:49:03: Sabine: :stares off into the middle distance. "Nearly ten years ago."
25-12-03 21:55:53: Bernadine: I sort of miss first impressions as well. It was a good way to track people you'd RPed with
25-12-03 21:57:07: Ada: I had mixed views on those. FWIW you might get some mileage out of 'note'.
25-12-03 21:57:29: Sabine: I mean I guess I am the weirdo who used them to see how active/roster available someone was. <.< >.>
25-12-03 21:59:24: Sabine: Oh, this person has like 120 first impressions? I personally probably don't want to step into those shoes...
25-12-03 22:00:00: Sabine: Oh, this person only has five first impressions in six months? They are not very active.
25-12-03 22:13:48: Eliza: That moment when you know nothing about money, but you're pretty sure the 'expert' you just talked to was wrong about something. Uuuugh why is this haaaard
25-12-03 22:15:35: Detlef: :peers.
25-12-03 22:18:00: Bernadine: A cousin!
25-12-03 22:19:05: Ada: I dislike dealing with everything to do with financial institutions.
25-12-03 22:21:06: Eliza: It's just so stupidly complicated. All I want to know is if I can change the owner (not the beneficiaries) of a 529 plan. Most things say yes, but the help desk guy said no. And I know you're not supposed to trust the internet but...the internet thinks yes. Am I defending AI now??
25-12-03 22:21:26: Eliza: I guess I'm now team Skynet.
25-12-03 22:22:57: Ada: Had to look that up but I can't see why a financial product couldn't be transferred. But then I live in a country where I had to pay 2,100 euro to a solicitor to switch mortgage provider. It's all dumb.
25-12-03 22:45:29: Sabine: That sounds complicated.
25-12-03 23:11:23: Dietrich: Alright, I have returned for the evening.
25-12-03 23:11:50: Dietrich: Now. Where are we playing?
25-12-03 23:18:38: Sabine: Beats me, I still got three hours deets.
25-12-03 23:22:35: Dietrich: Of work?
25-12-03 23:36:04: Ada: Updated the story view a bit there.
25-12-03 23:37:03: Dietrich: Ada, I have a clarification question about something (not the story view) can I page?
25-12-03 23:37:25: Ada: Sure.
25-12-03 23:44:29: Sabine: Yay, update!
25-12-03 23:44:50: Sabine: Oh, Helena is over there hiding as well.
25-12-03 23:45:16: Ada: Woo. I /am/ going to flip that chapter switch soon, but people popped in a few actions that I want to give them a chance to process with their chapter 1 rolls, so maybe I'll defer it to the 7th.
25-12-03 23:45:43: Dietrich: And some people are dragging their feet.
25-12-03 23:45:46: Dietrich: :coughs.
25-12-03 23:47:41: Dietrich: I have to figure out what my char may want to do.
25-12-03 23:48:09: Ada: The happening in 'org house otrese' was admittedly more Albrecht-oriented.
25-12-03 23:53:23: Dietrich: :is putting in his research request - How to become a Prince. (I'm kidding - maybe)
25-12-03 23:53:41: Ada: Be the child or grandchild of a monarch. :D
25-12-03 23:54:48: Dietrich: I'm the great-grandson of the Emperor (previous) close enough.
25-12-03 23:57:02: Eliza: I'm not falling for this again.
25-12-03 23:57:02: Sabine: You must purify yourself in the waters of lake Minnetonka.
25-12-03 23:57:26: Sabine: Only then can you potentially aspire to be Prince.
25-12-03 23:58:24: Eliza: Can Dietrich even sing?
25-12-03 23:59:04: Sabine: Only one way to find out. Deets, hit it.
25-12-03 23:59:47: Udo: Does he take requests?
25-12-04 00:00:19: Sabine: One hopes.
25-12-04 00:03:47: Dietrich: :eyes his sheet. "I think I have a few dice of performance, so yes?"
25-12-04 00:04:13: Dietrich: So, when I feel like it. Dietrich is very whimsical that way.
25-12-04 00:04:29: Sabine: We are off to a good start then.
25-12-04 00:59:58: Ada: I think I broadly know what people are going for, but if anyone is planning or knows of someone planning an action re Ania which is publicly visible, I'd be much obliged if it could be submitted by Friday.
25-12-04 01:15:50: Ada: Bogdan logs on to all the roll requirements. :D
25-12-04 01:18:57: Bogdan: So much governoring!
25-12-04 01:20:51: Dietrich: :logs on for rolls too. I prefer Texas Roadhouse ones
25-12-04 01:24:36: Eliza: I have almost perfected an at-home recipe for those.
25-12-04 01:28:56: Bogdan: :keeps wanting to page Adele. But that's not Adela.
25-12-04 01:44:55: Adela: Hello.  Is it me you're looking for
25-12-04 01:45:34: Dietrich: Always.
25-12-04 01:46:43: Adela: Helps if I don't hit the disconnect button when switching windows
25-12-04 01:47:23: Dietrich: Nah, keep them guessing.
25-12-04 01:49:08: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-04 01:49:30: Guest1: Hello, Ada!
25-12-04 01:49:44: Adela: :waves from her sailboat
25-12-04 01:50:49: Guest1: A sailboat! How are the seas?
25-12-04 01:50:58: Sabine: I have made it home. You may all rejoice.
25-12-04 01:51:33: Adela: Nothing bad ever happens on the seas and my job is incredibly boring, don't believe what anyone else says
25-12-04 01:51:54: Ada: Hey, guest! (or guest2!)
25-12-04 01:52:19: Guest2: Hiya, Ada.
25-12-04 01:52:32: Guest2: Dang, not even guest1.
25-12-04 01:52:41: Guest2: Honorable sudoku time.
25-12-04 01:52:52: Adela: No, that math don't math
25-12-04 01:52:55: Guest1: You're #1 in my heart, #2.
25-12-04 01:53:09: Guest2: Thanks, #1, you'll always be #1 to me.
25-12-04 01:53:23: Ada: All set, guest1. And good timing, considering Adela's on. :)
25-12-04 01:53:25: Dietrich: Adela, sail back.
25-12-04 01:53:42: Sabine: Come back Adela, come back Adela's sister.
25-12-04 01:53:53: Adela: Wait hold on
25-12-04 01:53:58: Adela: I'm getting a sister?!
25-12-04 01:54:10: Ada: Haha, no, no. Just a Fletza was apped.
25-12-04 01:54:16: Adela: Oh!
25-12-04 01:54:18: Sabine: You won't know until it happens, just ask Eliza.
25-12-04 01:54:42: Adela: I was going to say... I'll teach her about sailboats and we can braid each others hair on the sailboat
25-12-04 01:56:21: Dietrich: Wait, Adela, can we go on sailboats and braid each other's hair?
25-12-04 01:56:37: Adela: Only if you bring booze
25-12-04 01:56:47: Dietrich: :will probably braid yours by tying knots, getting bored, and wandering off in the middle, but...
25-12-04 01:56:54: Dietrich: I /always/ have booze
25-12-04 01:57:25: Melissa: I have to sit in my car for 4 minutes until I can leave work. It's 8 degrees, but good news it feels like it's -6
25-12-04 01:57:46: Adela: Then yes, we can go on sailboats and knot my hair, until you wander off even though we're at sea because that still seems perfectly logical to me for Dietrich.  He just shows up at port.  "what took you so long" eating a pie
25-12-04 01:58:46: Ada: All set, guest2!
25-12-04 01:58:55: Adela: Huzzah both of you!
25-12-04 01:59:00: Ada: Sabine, rejoice, for there is someone else to talk about military things at in the Tower.
25-12-04 01:59:01: Guest2: Ha, thanks Ada. Just got the email and finished setting. Now to transmogrify...
25-12-04 01:59:07: Eliza: Getting a surprise sister is always fun.
25-12-04 01:59:14: Adela: :wants a sister now
25-12-04 01:59:47: Eliza: She definitely didn't decide to become a scout because she had to tiptoe around or else I'd give her a makeover every chance I got.
25-12-04 02:00:11: Dietrich: :does not want a surprise sibling. I don't want to compete for awesomeness. I am it.
25-12-04 02:00:14: Dietrich: >.>
25-12-04 02:00:27: Eliza: Having is a sibling is how you know that's true, Dietrich.
25-12-04 02:00:38: Sabine: What, did Cousin Manny move in Ada?
25-12-04 02:00:49: Ada: No, Erika Otrese.
25-12-04 02:00:49: Dietrich: I'd probably 'care' about them or something.
25-12-04 02:00:51: Adela: I'll accept a really close cousin
25-12-04 02:01:01: Sabine: Oh, I almost picked her up back in the day, good stuff.
25-12-04 02:01:24: Sabine: Normally I just talk about military stuff to Koline while she stares into the middle distance with a blank expression.
25-12-04 02:01:25: Dietrich: She has black eyes and hair, I think she sounds groovy.
25-12-04 02:02:06: Ada: Welcome, Zygmunt and Erika!
25-12-04 02:02:10: Zygmunt: Thanks, Ada!
25-12-04 02:02:12: Adela: Cousin!
25-12-04 02:02:44: Erika: Thank you, Ada!
25-12-04 02:03:20: Zygmunt: Cousin!
25-12-04 02:03:26: Zygmunt: We are not starting a restaurant together, to be clear.
25-12-04 02:03:33: Sabine: Why not?
25-12-04 02:03:43: Adela: Well now my heart is broken
25-12-04 02:03:50: Zygmunt: Something something I'd eat it all.
25-12-04 02:04:20: Adela: I 'suppose' I'll have to continue being 'alright' at my job.
25-12-04 02:06:13: Sabine: Be mediocre like me.
25-12-04 02:06:49: Adela: :mediocre fistbump
25-12-04 02:07:02: Sabine: :nods.
25-12-04 02:07:08: Zygmunt: :middle five.
25-12-04 02:09:59: Sabine: :entirely average.
25-12-04 02:12:39: Sabine: It has Deets?
25-12-04 02:12:52: Dietrich: >.>
25-12-04 02:12:56: Dietrich: I would /never/
25-12-04 02:12:58: Ada: Dietrich, your thoughts were already read. :D An Albrecht would be great though.
25-12-04 02:13:11: Erika: I did it. I read them.
25-12-04 02:13:22: Dietrich: See?! I'm great at marketing.
25-12-04 02:13:30: Dietrich: Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
25-12-04 02:13:40: Sabine: An excellent marketeer, as it were.
25-12-04 02:13:52: Koline: :politely applauds.
25-12-04 02:14:02: Sabine: Hello Koline.
25-12-04 02:14:21: Erika: I've got to practice my, 'Stop, you violated the law!' speech now.
25-12-04 02:14:23: Dietrich: Current Empress.
25-12-04 02:14:23: Koline: Hello!
25-12-04 02:14:29: Erika: Hello!
25-12-04 02:14:36: Sabine: The once and future Empress, you mean.
25-12-04 02:16:40: Dietrich: Sure, Sure
25-12-04 02:16:55: Ada: I feel there's now a non-zero chance of someone asking me about the relationship between the Imperial Guard and Companions of the First King.
25-12-04 02:17:26: Erika: So, what do you think is the rel-- oh. Uh, nevermind.
25-12-04 02:17:44: Sabine: We stare at each other funnily from across the inner bailey.
25-12-04 02:17:47: Dietrich: Hey Ada, what is the relationship between the Imperial Guard and the Companions of the First?
25-12-04 02:17:53: Ada: lol
25-12-04 02:18:04: Sabine: Two houses, both alike in dignity.
25-12-04 02:18:40: Dietrich: I'm going to go add eggnog to Dr Pepper and be angry at what TikTok convinces me to do.
25-12-04 02:19:28: Ada: The Imperial Guard are a permanent, elite military unit; the Companions may do other stuff, and their members spend a lot of time lurking around the imperial frontier, but if someone can get them all together at once, they're very scary.
25-12-04 02:19:41: Sabine: In fair Sanctuary, where we lay our scene, from ancient grudge break to new mutiny, where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. From forth the fatal loins of these two foes a pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life.
25-12-04 02:20:57: Ada: Also they might look at each other funnily across the inner bailey, I guess.
25-12-04 02:21:18: Sabine: I figure the Companion tower is generally made up of a bunch of FNGs, two guys who got crap duty, and one generally annoyed Sabine. While everyone else faffs off around The Terror and Min Nome.
25-12-04 02:21:32: Sabine: Having a good time.
25-12-04 02:22:56: Ada: They're just built differently.
25-12-04 02:23:05: Sabine: Alternatively: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ghXxXyAuw
25-12-04 02:23:08: Sabine: One of the two.
25-12-04 02:23:55: Dietrich: Erika, your job is to wave to Sabine's funny look, then point to your tiara princess crown, then kawaii out of there.
25-12-04 02:24:01: Ada: That seems suitably jaunty.
25-12-04 02:26:10: Sabine: It represents the conflict between my generally silly ooc persona, and my portrayel of Sabine as being about three steps from Mazrim Taim at Dumai's Wells.
25-12-04 02:26:39: Ada: ;goes to consult the Internet about this.
25-12-04 02:27:17: Sabine: What, the WoT reference?
25-12-04 02:28:28: Ada: Yup. Never read it!
25-12-04 02:29:28: Sabine: An excellent book series, start of my drift to Sanderson.
25-12-04 02:30:40: Dietrich: I remember having time to read.
25-12-04 02:30:59: Erika: That sounds like a very interesting hobby, how do you do it?
25-12-04 02:31:36: Sabine: I hardly do anymore, same reason as Deets, I fear
25-12-04 02:32:03: Sieglinde: Audiobooks ftw
25-12-04 02:32:06: Erika: Seems like it's very in to not do it, then! That sounds easy.
25-12-04 02:32:22: Sieglinde: I just did my umpteenth WoT reread vis audiobook this summer.
25-12-04 02:32:35: Sabine: Sieglinde, raise the barrier two span.
25-12-04 02:32:58: Sieglinde: But I can't channel.
25-12-04 02:33:24: Sabine: Try harder.
25-12-04 02:33:45: Zygmunt: I schedule my reading to get it done, in a way. Reading budgets work.
25-12-04 02:35:31: Dietrich: I tried audiobooks and learned I hate being read to. I like my own head voice, not someone else's
25-12-04 02:35:43: Dietrich: That probably doesn't make sense to anyone else, but it does to me
25-12-04 02:35:47: Erika: I'll very kindly thank you to keep your math out of my words, Zygmunt.
25-12-04 02:35:55: Zygmunt: Nightmare inducement: record yourself reading aloud, then listen to that.
25-12-04 02:36:03: Zygmunt: The words are also math!
25-12-04 02:36:14: Erika: Math isn't real, it can't hurt me.
25-12-04 02:36:28: Zygmunt: But the things I create with math...
25-12-04 02:36:46: Dietrich: I'll protect you from Erika. Just give me all your money and trust me. Until I get bored.
25-12-04 02:36:49: Melissa: Also I don't want to know that I've been reading the name of everything wrong. Don't correct me audio book, it's not called that.
25-12-04 02:37:31: Erika: It was different in my head every time, too.
25-12-04 02:37:35: Zygmunt: TBF, Melissa, a lot of the pronunciations in audio books are just flat out wrong.
25-12-04 02:37:48: Sabine: Melissa!
25-12-04 02:37:50: Dietrich: I got you Melissa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgqNvWeifDM
25-12-04 02:38:40: Melissa: Sabine!
25-12-04 02:38:47: Sabine: <3
25-12-04 02:39:09: Melissa: I just got home from work, I didn't die in the snow.
25-12-04 02:39:19: Sabine: Hooray!
25-12-04 02:39:28: Dietrich: So proud.
25-12-04 02:40:19: Ada: I'm off for now, but if new people (or, you know, anyone) have any questions, feel free to put in a request. Later!
25-12-04 02:40:19: Dietrich: I had to go out earlier for food. I put on sneakers instead of boots because I was being lazy and almost died crossing the street.
25-12-04 02:40:32: Sabine: Goodnight Ada!
25-12-04 02:40:38: Dietrich: Night Ada.
25-12-04 02:40:39: Erika: Good night!
25-12-04 02:48:22: Sabine: Melissa, feed me please.
25-12-04 02:50:01: Zygmunt: How much freedom do we have to modify desc of our chosen character? And is there a bbpost about that?
25-12-04 02:50:34: Sabine: No clue, I don't know if any of us have ever even tried.
25-12-04 02:51:28: Melissa: I read something about this once.
25-12-04 02:51:52: Zygmunt: :begins wiring the desc with dynamite.
25-12-04 02:52:31: Adela: .. I could use that dynamite
25-12-04 02:52:49: Zygmunt: Dynamite busy, go way.
25-12-04 02:52:56: Adela: ::|
25-12-04 02:53:32: Sabine: It is 9:53pm Melissa, perfectly safe to feed me.
25-12-04 02:53:50: Adela: :flicks water on Sabine just to be sure
25-12-04 02:54:05: Zygmunt: Is that how you get more Sabines?
25-12-04 02:54:17: Sabine: :starts multiplying.
25-12-04 02:54:42: Adela: I take it back, sailboats are a bad place for Sabine...s.
25-12-04 02:55:00: Sabine: I assure you, many places are bad places for Sabines.
25-12-04 02:55:56: Erika: Sablins?
25-12-04 02:57:57: Erika: Are the biography commands what one would use to set their birthday to appear on their page?
25-12-04 02:58:48: Sabine: I /assume/
25-12-04 02:58:54: Erika: One does.
25-12-04 02:59:12: Sabine: But I also enjoy making an ass out of U and Me.
25-12-04 02:59:34: Melissa: I just watched Gremlins the other night
25-12-04 02:59:51: Sabine: I too have had to babysit my siblings children.
25-12-04 03:00:11: Melissa: Also for some reason I remember that it was a no to change descs, but I dont know why or where I read it and I cant find it to even make sure that wasnt a fever dream.
25-12-04 03:00:36: Dietrich: It might have been answered on channel
25-12-04 03:02:28: Melissa: I know why time is vague though if you type time, if that is a question!
25-12-04 03:03:28: Sabine: Because it is nought but an illusion
25-12-04 03:03:41: Dietrich: Getting deep convos now.
25-12-04 03:05:01: Melissa: Its what we do here.
25-12-04 03:06:25: Sabine: It is what happens when I am trying to decide if I am to tired to play or not.
25-12-04 03:14:32: Dietrich: Alright. Off to shower for the delight of everyone around me. BBIAF
25-12-04 03:15:26: Erika: Don't slip!
25-12-04 03:16:01: Sabine: Please do not curse the Deets.
25-12-04 03:43:49: Dietrich: I have returned. You may rejoice.
25-12-04 03:45:24: Melissa: Hello Guest!
25-12-04 03:45:50: Sabine: More guests. A day for guests indeed.
25-12-04 03:48:52: Adela: we gotta keep them guesting
25-12-04 03:48:56: Adela: :hrm...
25-12-04 03:49:08: Guest1: Keeping us Guesting?
25-12-04 03:49:22: Adela: I was going for a joke, but it didn't hit right
25-12-04 03:50:11: Dietrich: Hi Guest! Just let us know if you have questions and we will attempt to help.
25-12-04 10:24:25: Ada: Not that people are necessarily awake to see the answer, but descriptions are fairly set. Tempdesc can be used to append to them and there is the (very simple) craft command for people who like clothing objects.
25-12-04 10:33:16: Erika: I will let Zygmunt know the answer to his quesiton!
25-12-04 10:41:26: Ada: Thanks! Also, as for time, it's deliberately vague to avoid the issue of "So yesterday I was at the far side of the continent but I decided to stop back home for some snacks before heading out again"
25-12-04 11:01:13: Erika: ; peeks up from studying the lore and doing some note taking. "That's certainly kind to varying RL schedules!"
25-12-04 11:09:54: Ada: I think handwaving time is pretty much the standard these days. I played a game once where I had to spend an RL week doing nothing to represent travel time and that was just very silly.
25-12-04 11:18:41: Erika: As a lover of simulation games, my curiosity is piqued. As someone who also wants to enjoy a story and a game, I rather think pursuing certain things purely for the sake of realism is definitely A Choice, but tends to be more tedious and imposing rather than fun. Which is very much the three letter operative word any game shuold strive for.
25-12-04 11:20:55: Erika: It also sounds like you have the patience of a saint to have endured that. I'm not sure what I would have done had my only option been to twiddle my thumbs in the interim.
25-12-04 11:25:43: Ada: I very much think simulation should be the domain of video games, nowadays.
25-12-04 11:26:09: Erika: You are likely not wrong.
25-12-04 11:26:35: Ada: I used to think it could be a fun idea in a MU but I have never seen it actually be fun.
25-12-04 11:36:34: Erika: I think it probably requires too many things working out to be feasible, as much as I agree with the spirit of that. The idea is fascinating on paper. But quite a few ideas that are fascinating on paper seem to also have a high instance of not working out so great when you get people involved.
25-12-04 11:40:50: Erika: Even if you had a dedicated group of other players able to engage in emergent role-play with you through the whole trip as traveling companions, how do you guarantee that gets duplicated for every player in every instance of travel? Not to mention writing, as your own game is so cognizant of, takes a lot more time and dedication than a game with graphics that can be interacted with via buttons. Buttons go a lot faster than a few people writing poses.
25-12-04 11:59:32: Ada: Absolutely. And even then, for a lot of people, the thing to do is just spend a week offline.
25-12-04 13:53:11: Melissa: Thats the answer for descs I remember, it must have been written on a channel!
25-12-04 13:55:32: Melissa: I too have had to wait out travel on a game and had to tell people that I couldnt come out to play, I had three more days before im back in the city!
25-12-04 15:29:22: Ada: I have /views/ on that, Melissa. I sometimes think that sort of thing comes from a gamerunner not wanting a player to divulge some specific information too quickly, but, really, how many people will they RP with in three days?
25-12-04 16:06:26: Alethea: if anybody wants to do a scene, please just poke me :D
25-12-04 17:04:59: Dietrich: :waves.
25-12-04 17:12:12: Detlef: :waves.
25-12-04 17:22:18: Dietrich: How is?
25-12-04 17:26:01: Detlef: I'm ok
25-12-04 17:28:11: Dietrich: :offers a drink.
25-12-04 17:53:33: Ada: It's about to tick over into summer IC. :D
25-12-04 17:56:18: Melissa: Dietrich why did you erase autumn?!
25-12-04 18:01:09: Dietrich: Oh. I'm use to 1:1 games.
25-12-04 18:01:24: Dietrich: Fine... we will call it Mid-Winter in Mid-Summer.
25-12-04 18:01:28: Dietrich: I can work with it.
25-12-04 18:01:42: Dietrich: Also, let's be honest here. Dietrich would do this IC
25-12-04 18:02:13: Melissa: Christmas in July
25-12-04 18:02:19: Dietrich: Exactly
25-12-04 18:11:56: Ada: Fair, fair. Feel free to put something up on the event listing (see help event)
25-12-04 18:19:00: Dietrich: Now I'm going to have to figure out how to make it 'snow' in the Grand Park
25-12-04 18:19:22: Melissa: drugs
25-12-04 18:19:27: Dietrich: ROFL
25-12-04 18:19:49: Dietrich: I was just typing: Sorry to anyone that sniffs the 'snow' and gets a little hyper or something.
25-12-04 18:20:19: Dietrich: Sidenote for NO REASON, Ada what is the IC policy about surprise dosing a person?
25-12-04 18:23:24: Ada: It's "Don't".
25-12-04 18:35:45: Dietrich: ...
25-12-04 18:35:48: Dietrich: >.>
25-12-04 18:35:55: Dietrich: <.<
25-12-04 18:36:12: Dietrich: Glad there was no reason for this question.
25-12-04 18:37:29: Detlef: :dances through the room on German music
25-12-04 18:41:17: Dietrich: :dances through life.
25-12-04 19:22:39: Dietrich: Soooo... anyone feel like the RPz?
25-12-04 19:38:32: Erika: Yuletide? More like Juletide, am I right?
25-12-04 19:46:05: Melissa: You get it!
25-12-04 20:25:21: Sabine: Greetings.
25-12-04 20:27:25: Erika: Greetings!
25-12-04 20:31:50: Ada: Hey, Sabine.
25-12-04 20:32:14: Sabine: Hello, hello.
25-12-04 20:34:01: Sabine: I hope you are all well.
25-12-04 20:34:58: Ada: I am! Even better once I go and get some dinner here.
25-12-04 20:36:02: Sabine: Please also get me dinner.
25-12-04 21:23:13: Miroslaw: Hello!
25-12-04 21:24:36: Melissa: Hello Miroslaw!
25-12-04 21:28:09: Erika: Hello!
25-12-04 21:41:55: Udo: Hello
25-12-04 21:44:41: Sabine: Hello.
25-12-04 21:49:58: Claudia: I have a description, I'm a real girl now.
25-12-04 21:50:34: Erika: ; pops confetti. "Break out the champagne."
25-12-04 21:51:26: Sabine: :sighs, gets the shotgun. "This is always the hardest part."
25-12-04 21:54:10: Erika: Uhhh......
25-12-04 21:58:49: Sabine: ^_^
25-12-04 21:59:41: Sabine: In other news, most of my shift is leaving early, and I am being chased around the plant by my last remaining minion playing Bill Withers on his phone.
25-12-04 22:10:09: Sabine: Send helpm
25-12-04 22:19:13: Dietrich: I have returned
25-12-04 22:27:42: Sabine: Hello Deets. Welcome back.
25-12-04 22:33:39: Sabine: Three people in the tower, all one room away from meeting each other.
25-12-04 22:33:51: Erika: The tension is exquisite.
25-12-04 22:34:03: Bogdan: Antici . . .
25-12-04 22:34:52: Miroslaw: Pation?
25-12-04 22:35:04: Dietrich: Antici what? WHAT IS IT?!
25-12-04 22:35:09: Dietrich: :grins.
25-12-04 22:36:07: Sabine: We need Deets to stand in the courtyard to bring us all together.
25-12-04 22:36:42: Dietrich: I tried yesterday. I stood in a park and was like here I am.
25-12-04 22:37:10: Dietrich: Erika is already in the Great Hall.
25-12-04 22:37:31: Sabine: Yeah but that isn't the courtyard. Is it called the courtyard?
25-12-04 22:37:38: Dietrich: Yes
25-12-04 22:37:54: Sabine: We were all one O away from it.
25-12-04 22:38:03: Dietrich: I was more than that.
25-12-04 22:38:27: Sabine: Fair, I was just assuming your magnetism would drag us all out.
25-12-04 22:38:57: Sabine: I suppose i can get out of my hole a Lil early today, given I am doing nothing for the next three hours at work.
25-12-04 22:39:35: Dietrich: Now. Two of us are in the same room.
25-12-04 22:39:56: Erika: I beg to differ. There is one Deets and one inconspicuous armor statue.
25-12-04 22:52:02: Ada: Three of you!
25-12-04 22:52:49: Dietrich: Sabine is stair surfing. It's very un-noble.
25-12-04 22:52:55: Antigone: No one likes that armor statue
25-12-04 22:55:14: Sabine: If we lure out Udo and Koline we will have the full tower set.
25-12-04 22:56:44: Dietrich: Udo is idle and Koline has RL
25-12-04 22:57:06: Sabine: Our plans, foiled by that pesky real life once more.
25-12-04 23:00:12: Ada: Alas and alack.
25-12-04 23:01:06: Ada: I am by the way pleased to see the palace hall getting some use. It was always intended that way but maybe hasn't been an obvious place to go.
25-12-04 23:02:12: Sabine: We had to chase out all the cats first
25-12-04 23:03:26: Erika: Its hallowed halls have been graced with the time honored tradition of serving tray surfing. You may rejoice in its christening.
25-12-04 23:04:50: Ada: Dietrich is there, so I can see it.
25-12-04 23:05:46: Sabine: We set up with the axe at the bottom so he can get right back up the stairs.
25-12-04 23:06:10: Ada: As Valon intended.
25-12-04 23:07:08: Sabine: We do not forget the holy words of Valon as he swung the axe. Yeet.
25-12-04 23:36:14: Erika: I am a huge fan of the fact that dialogue is automatically a different color than the rest of a pose.
25-12-04 23:36:37: Ada: You can tweak it to suit with the stuff in help emit
25-12-05 00:13:10: Dietrich: I scared them all off to RL. Now who's the next victim?
25-12-05 00:13:29: Sabine: You have to unidle Udo
25-12-05 00:14:52: Detlef: Udo is not online?
25-12-05 00:17:04: Ada: Udo and Dietrich should get along like a house on fire.
25-12-05 00:17:47: Dietrich: I'm pretty sure Erika tried to send me to my room, the infirmary and jail soooooo
25-12-05 00:18:30: Erika: Only the first two, but I can see why you'd think the third.
25-12-05 00:35:04: Sabine: Everyone was waiting for Sabines reaction.
25-12-05 00:35:59: Sabine: Which was bound to obviously be "Valon teaches us to forgive our enemies. But not until after they are hanged."
25-12-05 00:52:11: Ada: I tidied up the action dashboard a bit, added a requires GM/player input button, and it's now a lot easier for me to read, that's for sure.
25-12-05 00:56:01: Dietrich: Yay for easy
25-12-05 00:57:03: Melissa: Hopefully that makes it easier for you!
25-12-05 00:57:25: Dietrich: Melissa, come amuse me.
25-12-05 00:58:10: Ada: Much! People can press the buttons themselves, too. Also filters completed/cancelled actions by default. There were 40 all in a continuous list before, which was a bit much. :D
25-12-05 00:58:40: Melissa: Dietrich are you in your room, infirmary, or jail?
25-12-05 00:59:05: Dietrich: None of the above
25-12-05 01:24:56: Roland: He's in the Palace
25-12-05 01:25:00: Roland: That much can be determined
25-12-05 01:25:02: Roland: Nothing else
25-12-05 01:25:10: Dietrich: Roland knows all
25-12-05 01:25:30: Roland: I'm basically your neighbor
25-12-05 01:29:13: Dietrich: We could be roomies
25-12-05 01:29:19: Dietrich: Bunk beds, Roland!
25-12-05 01:30:31: Roland: :laughs
25-12-05 01:30:42: Roland: But we are ROYALTY, Deet!
25-12-05 01:30:55: Dietrich: ...
25-12-05 01:31:06: Dietrich: Royal bunk beds?
25-12-05 01:31:10: Dietrich: King size
25-12-05 01:31:13: Roland: We should definitely have Koline just open another bedroom so we can have royal bunk beds and be roomies yeah
25-12-05 01:31:40: Roland: We'll call it the Real Otrese Dormitory
25-12-05 01:32:03: Dietrich: No. We'll call it 'The Fort'.
25-12-05 01:32:12: Roland: Fine
25-12-05 01:32:14: Roland: The Fort it is
25-12-05 01:33:12: Dietrich: Yay
25-12-05 01:34:46: Melissa: You guys are going to have the best sleepovers in the Empire.
25-12-05 01:36:22: Dietrich: We are going to have smores and tell ghost stories.
25-12-05 01:47:55: Roland: War stories and whiskey
25-12-05 01:48:16: Ada: Dietrich even has a war story, now. :D
25-12-05 01:48:21: Melissa: I dont have any war stories or whiskey to attend this.
25-12-05 01:48:30: Dietrich: I only have one war story
25-12-05 01:48:53: Dietrich: How do you not have whiskey?
25-12-05 01:49:25: Melissa: We are a wine house! And ciders.
25-12-05 01:49:36: Dietrich: I forgive you
25-12-05 01:49:58: Melissa: Am I still invited?
25-12-05 01:50:11: Dietrich: I suppose
25-12-05 01:53:57: Sabine: We can get Melissa a war story.
25-12-05 01:54:06: Sabine: :hands Melissa a sword.
25-12-05 01:56:37: Melissa: Yay swords!
25-12-05 01:56:53: Dietrich: Pointy side away from you.
25-12-05 01:57:52: Melissa: Im sure it isnt hard
25-12-05 01:58:31: Sabine: We will have her covered in woad and charging the enemy in no time.
25-12-05 02:00:57: Dietrich: This is how history repeats.
25-12-05 02:32:41: Sabine: Dial A for Ada
25-12-05 13:48:16: Eliza: Hoping I am finally done with most of the holiday rush this weekend and can find some time to play
25-12-05 13:50:01: Ada: You can confront Theon's sign.
25-12-05 15:17:14: Urumil: Afternoon
25-12-05 15:17:37: Ada: Hey, Urumil! Would you and Dietrich like a live scene, do you know?
25-12-05 15:18:50: Urumil: I believe so.
25-12-05 15:19:20: Urumil: Dietrich has been planning his pirate costume.
25-12-05 15:20:41: Urumil: I wont be available on sunday but pretty much any other time works
25-12-05 15:21:49: Ada: There's another action-related event on Sunday, but other times work for me too. It shouldn't be a terribly lengthy scene with just three of us.
25-12-05 15:22:04: Ada: Unless Melissa wants to put on a pirate costume I guess.
25-12-05 15:22:32: Urumil: :laughs. No pirate costumes.
25-12-05 15:22:43: Bernd: Yarrr.
25-12-05 15:23:04: Urumil: Although I think it will be hilarious to see a princed dressed up as whatever a prince thinks pirates look like trying to fit in with pirates.
25-12-05 15:23:14: Urumil: Who mostly just wear whatever they stole afterall
25-12-05 15:24:19: Ada: Most pirates on the Sea Between are really just ships out of various minor island states and it's not like there's some unified sea police. :D
25-12-05 15:24:39: Urumil: Indeed.  This is why Urumil is like NOOO.  No special outfits.
25-12-05 15:24:47: Bernd: Just dress like a prince that said prince pretending to be a pirate clearly kidnapped. Bonus points if you claim to have stolen his rouge and powdered wig, too.
25-12-05 15:25:01: Urumil: :chuckles.
25-12-05 16:19:11: Melissa: I can be a pirate?!
25-12-05 16:19:40: Melissa: Also it took me double the time to get to work as usual, it's very slippery and snowing.
25-12-05 16:20:16: Roland: Anything your heart desires, yes
25-12-05 19:57:44: Bernadine: Sabine leaves me the best presents
25-12-05 20:06:20: Ada: Hee. Yes.
25-12-05 20:07:21: Sabine: I got you a kitty. ^_^
25-12-05 20:08:21: Erika: The universal distribution system happily at work through others.
25-12-05 20:08:22: Melissa: I like kitties too.
25-12-05 20:18:38: Sabine: Reverse catting
25-12-05 20:34:34: Dietrich: :waves.
25-12-05 20:34:59: Bernadine: Hullo
25-12-05 20:35:13: Ada: Hey, Dietrich.
25-12-05 20:37:27: Dietrich: My snack box came in the mail. It's a good day
25-12-05 20:39:18: Sabine: Hello Deets
25-12-05 20:53:29: Ada: Snack box here means chicken and chips.
25-12-05 20:53:39: Ada: That's fries to you, I suspect.
25-12-05 20:54:08: Dietrich: I have a subscription box of snacks
25-12-05 20:54:17: Dietrich: It is fries to me
25-12-05 20:54:29: Ada: Subscription snacks sound fun.
25-12-05 20:55:20: Ada: I once wound up in an "American-style" restaurant in Salerno (it was 2 in the afternoon in November and not much was open), and anyway, ordered a burger with a side of chips, not thinking about it. I got a plate of warm crisps.
25-12-05 20:55:28: Dietrich: This one is holiday world snacks
25-12-05 20:55:53: Bernadine: That sounds amazing Dietrich
25-12-05 20:55:58: Bernadine: And that's kinda funny Ada
25-12-05 20:56:22: Dietrich: :would like to be in Italy
25-12-05 20:57:26: Dietrich: This box has beer flavored fudge. I'm not going to be down for that
25-12-05 20:57:56: Ada: I was there briefly in September! Rome, straight to the port north of Rome, off on a boat for a time, then Messina and Naples on the way back. Then because to get a reasonable flight cost back from Rome was going to involve connecting flights in Brussels or, absurdly, Barcelona, I took the train to Pisa, saw a little of it and Lucca, and went from there.
25-12-05 20:58:20: Ada: Italy is very very easy to get around. Outside of the Low Countries, one of the easiest to recommend places as a tourist in Europe.
25-12-05 20:58:27: Dietrich: Ada, why didn't you invite me to go?
25-12-05 20:58:40: Ada: My time machine broke, alas.
25-12-05 20:58:49: Dietrich: Rude
25-12-05 20:59:35: Sabine: :casts her gaze to Ada.
25-12-05 20:59:39: Sabine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FknFHUmBs
25-12-05 21:00:25: Ada: I have never been to Brighton, which is good.
25-12-05 21:00:45: Sabine: Ada sticks to the Hove side of things.
25-12-05 21:02:04: Ada: I draw a north-south line through Birmingham and stay west of it.
25-12-05 21:02:51: Sabine: Oh no, they are an art student in Bristol.
25-12-05 21:03:12: Dietrich: Ada is an art student?
25-12-05 21:03:22: Ada: I am not, but Bristol's a cool city.
25-12-05 21:03:49: Sabine: I know several people who would vehemently disagree.
25-12-05 21:04:02: Ada: They have not only bus lanes, but bus roads!
25-12-05 21:04:47: Sabine: We all know the best place is Blackpool
25-12-05 21:04:52: Sabine: ...30 years ago
25-12-05 21:04:54: Dietrich: I'm just plotting all the couches I can surf when I have time to travel.
25-12-05 21:05:52: Ada: It's Wells, really.
25-12-05 21:08:22: Sabine: I enjoyed Castlebay, but I am also a noted weirdo.
25-12-05 21:15:06: Ada: Never been.
25-12-05 21:16:32: Sabine: The hebs were cool, always suggest.
25-12-05 21:17:17: Dietrich: Me neithr
25-12-05 21:17:44: Bernadine: my hibachi has arrived i shall return
25-12-05 21:18:38: Sabine: I didn't send that one.
25-12-05 21:20:36: Dietrich: Sabine sends food?
25-12-05 21:23:12: Sabine: Only to Bernadine
25-12-05 21:28:18: Ada: It's no hibachi though.
25-12-05 21:30:12: Miroslaw: Hello!
25-12-05 21:30:16: Dietrich: I joke about it, but I'm too private to give my name or address to anyone.
25-12-05 21:30:21: Ada: Hey, Miroslaw!
25-12-05 21:30:52: Ada: I feel like Miroslaw and Dietrich should know each other.
25-12-05 21:31:23: Dietrich: I have to go to dinner in a few hours, but I'm down to meet the people.
25-12-05 21:31:28: Dietrich: Erika LOVES me.
25-12-05 21:33:10: Dietrich: I'm waiting for a tall, violent, quiet sellsword to hit the roster.
25-12-05 21:36:14: Miroslaw: Of course. I thought I should finish reading the story and scenes so far, then start my RPs with my family, just to get a feeling of how everything works.
25-12-05 21:37:23: Sabine: :hands Miroslaw a sword.
25-12-05 21:37:49: Ada: I'd say there's no great need to read the scenes unless you like that sort of thing. story/major plucks out three bigger events.
25-12-05 21:38:09: Ada: Vanzek is pretty quiet, so I'd recommend jumping straight out onto the grid.
25-12-05 21:38:53: Dietrich: We can fisticuff at dawn
25-12-05 21:39:19: Melissa: One day ill send you an octopus, Dietrich.
25-12-05 21:39:31: Dietrich: One day
25-12-05 21:40:17: Dietrich: One day someone will start drawing things again and I'll send you tokens of appreciation.
25-12-05 21:40:51: Miroslaw: Aw, I thought you were more of a hugger, not a fighter, Dietrich.
25-12-05 21:41:08: Dietrich: He will.
25-12-05 21:41:15: Dietrich: He tried to hug Erika
25-12-05 21:43:29: Sabine: I confiscated all the hugs.
25-12-05 22:21:00: Erika: He tried to hug Erika.... after surfing down some stairs on a serving tray in the Great Hall. Erika simpled quesitoned if it was a reasonable hugging moment.
25-12-05 22:21:17: Erika: Simpled? Simply.
25-12-05 22:21:35: Erika: None of my fingers want to work today it seems.
25-12-05 22:22:03: Sabine: We should have put him back at the top of the stairs.
25-12-05 22:25:45: Erika: So he could surf down them again?
25-12-05 22:26:05: Sabine: Many, many, times.
25-12-06 00:15:21: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-06 00:21:54: Ada: Okay, I am /fascinated/ by the guest-bouncing thing. I suppose I could rummage in the logs for IPs in case it's the same person. Might be an errant Jill.
25-12-06 00:23:03: Melissa: They've never paged anyone from what ive heard at least!
25-12-06 00:23:35: Ada: Same thing with a guest almost daily, just seconds online, and they vanish the moment someone says hello.
25-12-06 00:23:50: Ada: But no pages, so that's good!
25-12-06 00:23:52: Penelope: God. The legedn of Jill made it over here? Yikes.
25-12-06 00:24:15: Ada: Nah, I'm just trying to figure the pattern of guests coming online for seconds and bouncing the moment they're greeted.
25-12-06 00:28:41: Melissa: Ada, how does society feel about piercings or tattoos?
25-12-06 00:29:49: Ada: Mostly going to go with 'sure, why not', but a tattoo might mysteriously vanish if a character is rostered.
25-12-06 00:30:17: Melissa: That is understandable!
25-12-06 00:33:18: Sabine: :wakes back up.
25-12-06 00:33:28: Sabine: I have rode that train to the station Penelope.
25-12-06 00:34:13: Sabine: As for the guest bounce, it has also been happening on the other game I play, so it is interesting.
25-12-06 00:36:49: Sabine: Also, Melissa!
25-12-06 00:54:04: Melissa: Sabine!
25-12-06 00:56:37: Sabine: ^_^
25-12-06 02:43:08: Dietrich: Greetings
25-12-06 02:44:02: Sabine: I feel like I need a nap, then to hunt play
25-12-06 02:44:15: Irreth: Dietrich, I've got a really important task for you. Don't let Urumil die.
25-12-06 02:44:32: Sabine: Urumil is immortal
25-12-06 02:44:34: Ada: I'm just waiting to catch them both online at once. :D
25-12-06 02:44:37: Dietrich: I make no promises.
25-12-06 02:44:43: Sabine: He remembers the greytides.
25-12-06 02:45:06: Irreth: If you do, and you survive, I /will/ find you. And I have a particular set of... well, I don't. But I will cry on Koline's shoulder.
25-12-06 02:45:16: Dietrich: :is pretty chaotic. May help you. May light you on fire.
25-12-06 02:45:49: Erika: May hit you with a serving tray. Be on your toes.
25-12-06 02:46:23: Ada: Koline has a very dignified shoulder.
25-12-06 02:46:34: Sabine: But does she have caffiene?
25-12-06 02:46:41: Irreth: :had a delighful scene with Koline the other night where they were talking about Urumil and Dietrich and the chaos they are bound to cause and just kind of looking at each other knowingly going, /family, amiright?/
25-12-06 02:51:09: Dietrich: :gasps. "You were talking about me?"
25-12-06 02:51:14: Dietrich: As you should. Carry on.
25-12-06 02:51:20: Sabine: In glowing terms of course.
25-12-06 02:51:51: Dietrich: No press ib bad press
25-12-06 02:52:28: Melissa: The amount of times I sang "How do you solve a problem like Maria" from the Sound of Music when dealing with a character of Dietrich's is too many to count.
25-12-06 02:52:34: Sabine: :squints.
25-12-06 02:52:44: Sabine: :hands Melissa a sword.
25-12-06 02:54:11: Melissa: Thats what his character did too.
25-12-06 02:54:28: Dietrich: I mean... yes.
25-12-06 02:55:07: Sabine: Use the power of the blade, Melissa.
25-12-06 02:55:17: Sabine: Or tell me what I am doing tonight, one of the two.
25-12-06 02:55:24: Dietrich: She tried.
25-12-06 02:56:04: Melissa: He took off all his clothes and stood there without an armor score, and I still did no damage with the combat code.
25-12-06 02:56:22: Dietrich: Also true
25-12-06 02:56:47: Dietrich: And they say romance is dead.
25-12-06 02:58:05: Sabine: :squints.
25-12-06 02:58:55: Melissa: Its why most of my characters have to hire people to use the swords for her.
25-12-06 02:59:13: Dietrich: This is true.
25-12-06 02:59:32: Dietrich: Or find ones that growl and get overprotective.
25-12-06 02:59:42: Sabine: Melissa, we need tea.
25-12-06 03:01:33: Melissa: Ive decided Aetos also makes schnapps, with all that fruit. So wine and fruit brandies! No tea though Sabine.
25-12-06 03:01:37: Ada: Gosh, combat code.
25-12-06 03:01:38: Sabine: I wonder if we have any at the palace.
25-12-06 03:02:00: Ada: The lesson from combat code on a MUSH was don't do combat code on a MUSH.
25-12-06 03:02:07: Sabine: Also the proper flavor for schnapps is peppermint, extra chilled.
25-12-06 03:02:36: Dietrich: My favorite flavor is free
25-12-06 03:03:56: Sabine: But take me to your liquors, Melissa.
25-12-06 03:04:56: Melissa: I think we are going to have a social where we paint shit and drink Sabine.
25-12-06 03:05:42: Sabine: We are drinking Sabine?
25-12-06 03:06:18: Melissa: Add a comma, you are my painting partner!
25-12-06 03:06:35: Melissa: We'll hire a nude model, it'll be great
25-12-06 03:07:09: Sabine: In before Deets raises his hand.
25-12-06 03:07:48: Dietrich: :raises hand.
25-12-06 03:11:59: Sabine: Erika, we got tea in there?
25-12-06 03:13:35: Erika: It seems tealess. I hope no one threw it into the sea.
25-12-06 03:13:38: Dietrich: Hmmm.. I need to talk to Koline.
25-12-06 03:23:34: Dietrich: ICly, I'm just going to show up at people's home places and be like, I'm here for the tour.
25-12-06 03:24:46: Sabine: We determined there is no tea in the palace because the servers couldn't bring it, because someone stole their tray.
25-12-06 03:25:01: Sabine: This is going on a permanent record.
25-12-06 03:25:07: Dietrich: Wow. That's awkward.
25-12-06 03:25:12: Dietrich: Who would do that?
25-12-06 03:42:14: Ada: I am very much looking forward to Dietrich's tour.
25-12-06 03:50:05: Sabine: :bars the door.
25-12-06 03:52:01: Dietrich: You are on my list too.
25-12-06 03:57:46: Sabine: I live at Melissa's place.
25-12-06 04:04:14: Dietrich: That won't stop me
25-12-06 04:11:29: Sabine: :nods
25-12-06 04:11:58: Crescentia: :waves
25-12-06 04:12:03: Ada: Hey, Crescentia!
25-12-06 04:12:36: Crescentia: Happy Friday, all.
25-12-06 04:12:53: Ada: Happy Friday! Hope you've a nice weekend ahead.
25-12-06 04:13:24: Crescentia: It started with a primary school dance so... I may be recovering for the next two days.
25-12-06 04:15:27: Ada: Hee. Okay, fair. My nephew is turning three, so part of my Sunday is a birthday party. That shouldn't be too tiring.
25-12-06 04:16:38: Sabine: Hello Cres.
25-12-06 04:17:47: Crescentia: Aww, that will be exciting. Three is fun in hindsight :). Hello Sabine.
25-12-06 04:18:07: Sabine: Don't remind me I have Christmas coming up, I will be sick for weeks.
25-12-06 04:21:27: Ada: Should be a nice couple of hours. Sabine, I'm afraid Christmas is coming up.
25-12-06 04:27:09: Sabine: The children, they always give me their germs. ;_;
25-12-06 17:20:41: Sabine: :stretches.
25-12-06 17:20:57: Ada: This seems like a step up from sneezes.
25-12-06 17:23:19: Erika: ; steezes.
25-12-06 17:24:58: Ada: What's up, Erika?
25-12-06 17:30:01: Erika: Enjoying a quiet Saturday morning, how about you?
25-12-06 17:31:03: Ada: Got some good lunch. Home a couple of hours, working a bit on the web action interface here.
25-12-06 17:37:01: Erika: I should lunch, as it is that time.
25-12-06 17:48:05: Sabine: I want a lunch
25-12-06 18:16:46: Sabine: :also sneezes.
25-12-06 18:17:00: Sabine: Now time for lunch.
25-12-06 18:55:17: Ada: Koline!
25-12-06 18:55:42: Koline: Hello @.@
25-12-06 19:01:03: Ada: Hello. How're things?
25-12-06 19:01:16: Koline: Christmas season is officially here at work! x.x
25-12-06 19:10:19: Ada: You must be run off your feet this month.
25-12-06 19:10:39: Koline: Yus ;~;
25-12-06 19:10:45: Sabine: It will be over soon Koline, you can do it.
25-12-06 19:11:08: Ada: Koline becomes the Grinch.
25-12-06 19:32:35: Ada: ;gives Koline so much guidance as to swamp her, whoops.
25-12-06 19:35:26: Sabine: Guide us Ada, into the swamp of despair.
25-12-06 19:39:25: Ada: It's not that bad a swamp.
25-12-06 19:40:05: Sabine: Does Shrek live there?
25-12-06 19:40:18: Ada: No, an ogre ate him.
25-12-06 19:40:31: Ada: Actually, okay, it's a pretty despairing swamp. The upbeat tone of story update 1 may have been slightly misleading.
25-12-06 19:41:30: Sabine: :snerks.
25-12-06 19:45:45: Sabine: More warpstone, yes-yes?
25-12-06 19:50:03: Ada: The moon is absolutely fine.
25-12-06 19:51:37: Sabine: :squints.
25-12-06 19:51:41: Sabine: /Is/ it?
25-12-06 19:51:50: Ada: Yes.
25-12-06 19:52:23: Sabine: :squints more.
25-12-06 19:53:04: Ada: You might need a telescope.
25-12-06 19:53:13: Sabine: I don't see why we shouldn't be upbeat tho. ^_^
25-12-06 22:58:30: Sigitas: :waves.
25-12-06 22:59:10: Sabine: Sigi-wigi
25-12-06 23:00:07: Sigitas: hey Bine
25-12-06 23:00:31: Sabine: Hope you are well. ^_^
25-12-06 23:04:17: Ada: Hey, Sigitas!
25-12-06 23:12:31: Sigitas: we had our company christmas party yesterday evening at a theater so still recovering
25-12-06 23:19:43: Ada: I've successfully dodged work Christmas things for years unless they're on-site. :D
25-12-06 23:24:52: Sigitas: well my sister is my boss so hard to say no
25-12-06 23:33:16: Sabine: We are also your boss.
25-12-06 23:35:59: Sigitas: you are not
25-12-06 23:36:50: Sabine: :puts on her tin star.
25-12-06 23:40:39: Sigitas: :gets his army of ice dragons
25-12-06 23:52:29: Sabine: I just pictured a bunch of little dragon models made out of ice cubes, and I love them.
25-12-06 23:54:08: Sigitas: that's all we could afford anyway
25-12-06 23:55:24: Sabine: Have you considered selling ice to Hadash?
25-12-06 23:56:58: Sigitas: don't wanna know what the Mad King would do with it
25-12-07 00:05:33: Sabine: Make ice dragons
25-12-07 00:07:35: Ada: Snow angels! Those will help, right?
25-12-07 00:08:15: Sabine: :nods
25-12-07 00:37:18: Ada: Any last chapter 1 requests before I tick things forward tomorrow?
25-12-07 00:37:42: Ada: Mostly just Ania stuff, I mean. The rest isn't time sensitive.
25-12-07 00:38:03: Sabine: Can I have a pony?
25-12-07 00:41:45: Ada: Yes. Are you going to defend the Purple Coast with it?
25-12-07 00:42:40: Sabine: Not yet
25-12-07 00:43:05: Sabine: Jokes aside, my plans lay elsewhere in that regards.
25-12-07 01:27:10: Sabine: :just starts blaring Sister of Pearl throughout the Tower.
25-12-07 01:28:17: Ada: Someone's going to give Sabine an ASBO.
25-12-07 01:30:05: Sabine: :squints. ;_;
25-12-07 17:23:24: Detlef: :waves
25-12-07 20:59:08: Melissa: How are we all this lovely Sunday?
25-12-07 23:01:31: Ada: Pretty good, Melissa, if very late saying so. Full of cake.
25-12-07 23:04:49: Melissa: How did the birthday party go?
25-12-07 23:06:26: Ada: It was good. Nephew got so many presents he didn't know what to do. :D
25-12-07 23:07:09: Melissa: Aww thats good, I know December birthdays can be hard.
25-12-07 23:08:53: Ada: Just have to keep it going for Christmas!
25-12-08 00:32:01: Sabine: Oh, I didn't log off
25-12-08 01:54:15: Adela: :sails thro
25-12-08 01:57:29: Sabine: Hewwo
25-12-08 14:41:28: Bogdan: Oh, interesting.  (The Ania thing.)
25-12-08 14:43:07: Ada: Feel free to have /views/. Anyway I'll be sprinkling in more org happenings over the next few days.
25-12-08 14:43:39: Bogdan: :thinks Bogdan would be in favor of not taking them in because he needs Imperial help in the North, but as a player.  Hm!
25-12-08 14:47:06: Ada: The differing PC views were fun to see. I've another minor update to put up from an event last night, too.
25-12-08 17:16:51: Ada: Ran the idle check there. Some characters back up on the roster.
25-12-08 17:35:51: Bogdan: Wow.  I literally just said, "oh, I should talk to Adela," and then she appears!
25-12-08 17:36:01: Adela: My sailboat has ears
25-12-08 17:36:26: Adela: Literally, I keep ears dangling from the mast.
25-12-08 17:45:28: Adela: >_>
25-12-08 17:47:15: Urumil: Fancy
25-12-08 19:10:34: Sabine: :pops up, sneezes.
25-12-08 19:13:12: Ada: Did the cold come back?
25-12-08 19:16:36: Sabine: No, but now I feel like it is my associated greeting so I can't stop.
25-12-08 19:17:03: Sabine: But I suppose it was either that or Ho there, coming or going?
25-12-08 19:23:39: Ada: Like those people who never sneeze just once.
25-12-08 19:30:33: Sabine: There is always a sneeze.
25-12-08 19:32:25: Manfred: Mmm, congestion.
25-12-08 20:34:25: Sabine: Much like traffic, ever present
25-12-08 21:02:01: Sigitas: :waves
25-12-08 21:03:45: Ada: Hey, Sigitas!
25-12-08 21:40:45: Erika: I am unfortunately one of those people who can't sneeze just once.
25-12-08 21:42:10: Sabine: It is how me and Erika communicate, apparently.
25-12-08 21:42:28: Erika: Better than having to share 1 brain cell.
25-12-08 21:58:46: Sabine: I don't get one of those.
25-12-08 22:46:14: Efthymia: I'm.So.Tired*cries* I'm so sorry I haven't been around. I have some guilt, even though I don't need to!
25-12-08 22:47:52: Melissa: I am starting to suspect you and Dietrich are the same person, you are never around at the same time!
25-12-08 22:48:58: Efthymia: LOL nooooo! I'm tired of working though. The new girl was supposed to start tonight. Like....I'm supposed to be training her as we speak. Apparently she can't start until Friday now. Plus 2x a week of physical therapy. I whooped.
25-12-08 22:50:10: Ada: Hope it eases up for you soon!
25-12-08 22:53:09: Melissa: At my last job I have that happen repeatedly in a row. They would come for orientation and never return. I could not blame them but I was tired.
25-12-08 22:58:19: Efthymia: It's a pretty slow and boring shift, tbh. But damn....Luckily we've been sort of rotating, but the one girl and I usually do 2x a week.
25-12-08 22:58:33: Efthymia: The 3rd girl basically had to be forced to start helping out
25-12-08 22:58:48: Melissa: You know better than to ever say slow or boring.
25-12-08 23:00:21: Efthymia: I know >_<
25-12-08 23:16:57: Sabine: If it makes you feel better.
25-12-08 23:17:53: Sabine: We have a new person, that started on first shift, that for whatever reason in infinite wisdom the powers that be decided needed to be trained by the worst possible nepo baby of an employee I have had the displeasure to be around.
25-12-08 23:18:24: Sabine: Then he came to my shift, so now me and a person more familiar with that specific job have to entirely retrain this poor guy.
25-12-08 23:18:45: Sabine: Whilst I am trying to make sure we hit Christmas goals.
25-12-08 23:19:16: Efthymia: I actually understand that! The person that is going to be training this person one day this week is awful! She's that person that thinks she knows everything, she's done everything, and is that one up person. So we'll be definitely retraining this poor girl
25-12-08 23:19:33: Sabine: Ah, not quite.
25-12-08 23:19:49: Adela: That sounds sucky
25-12-08 23:20:36: Sabine: So back in 09 when the economy went into recession, I lost my job, as many did. And there was some other things that came up, but essentially I sat at home for a year and a half and every two weeks unemployment sent me a check. It was the best job I ever had.
25-12-08 23:20:52: Sabine: The guy who initially trained this guy thinks /that is his job right now/
25-12-08 23:21:01: Efthymia: oh god. ouch!
25-12-08 23:22:39: Sabine: So I have to pull a guy off of a same department similar job, to remedial the new guy (Who is honestly great), because he was not trained properly in very basic stuff.
25-12-08 23:24:50: Sabine: So anyways, I hope your day gets better and it is lively to have you no matter the amount of free time you have to soend with us.
25-12-08 23:25:43: Efthymia: I appreciate you. Last week I had a woman come in who couldn't remember how to spell her child's middle name. And her husband wound up having to google it. It was after a stinkin rock
25-12-08 23:26:10: Sabine: I just build things that keep airplanes in the air. ^_^
25-12-08 23:26:43: Efthymia: Sounds not important >_< jkjk
25-12-08 23:26:45: Ada: The game isn't intended to be particularly short-term. I know that planning for something to run for more than a few months isn't in vogue for MU*s anymore, but as long as there are some people who want to write some stories, I expect I'll be around too, so there'll be a game and some stories whenever time does free up.
25-12-08 23:27:44: Efthymia: Melissa keeps me in the loop =)
25-12-08 23:28:32: Sabine: Ada BB, no one plans to run a MUSH for a few months. Most just collapse in that time period.
25-12-08 23:29:17: Ada: Okay, fair. And for those who wanted to keep it ticking over, that sucks.
25-12-08 23:30:31: Adela: One day Imma find a Zombie Survival mush
25-12-08 23:31:10: Ada: I think someone ran one for a couple of months using Ares. I didn't play it myself.
25-12-08 23:31:38: Adela: Areeesss.... :|
25-12-09 00:07:55: Sabine: I don't know why I dislike Ares so. Well I do, it is just irrational.
25-12-09 00:08:46: Adela: Yeah, I've never been a fan of Ares
25-12-09 00:09:31: Ada: I think the potential of multiple concurrent and asynchronous scenes means that a part of any game culture will involve facilitating that, and it doesn't work for me.
25-12-09 00:09:53: Sabine: Like when Ares was but new a friend of mine invited me to a game or two. And like, I went, and everyone was very friendly and helpful.
25-12-09 00:09:58: Bogdan: There were, in fact, TWO zombie survival games on Ares and both imploded quickly.
25-12-09 00:10:30: Sabine: But like not in a Ada is excited about their game and they and other players want to share the fun and make me be able to enjoy it too way.
25-12-09 00:10:31: Adela: There was a Walking Dead game that was not Ares, but it was over a decade ago and I don't think it ever got traction.
25-12-09 00:10:39: Adela: also Resident Evil, which was aight
25-12-09 00:10:45: Sabine: But like in a stepford wives sort of way.
25-12-09 00:11:01: Ada: What an image.
25-12-09 00:11:56: Sabine: It weirded me out. Another forced later explained that it is likely because the community is used to being under constant log surveillance. But like, so is everyone really.
25-12-09 00:12:00: Adela: I think the disassociation of ares is what loses me.  I have to be in the moment to rp, and if it's on a webbrowser going over a month, I'm going to lose interest.
25-12-09 00:12:53: Ada: I think the tricky adjustment for me here has been to the fact that a player can be enthusiastic and engaged while also only being online twice a week. That's obviously an absolutely fine way to approach a hobby, but it's been so deeply inculcated that an active and interested player must obviously be one who is out doing social scenes for six hours daily.
25-12-09 00:13:18: Bogdan: The hobby is so much older now.
25-12-09 00:13:20: Ada: To which I'd say 'No please look at these other hobby options too'.
25-12-09 00:13:33: Sabine: The assumption that I have a life is sadly misplaced, Ada.
25-12-09 00:16:05: Ada: I feel that way entirely, Adela. That makes sense. As for the logs? It might be more the norm of sharing them I think?
25-12-09 00:17:01: Sabine: I think it is more publically logged, or at least is more open about it. With people forgetting that if yiu really want to, anything on any other MUSH is also on some level logged.
25-12-09 00:18:31: Adela: I've got mixed opinions on log sharing.  Sometimes I like to read people's logs, especially good writers, when I have nothing going on.  But when logs become mandatory, it loses me.  It's homework and I was never good at that.
25-12-09 00:18:48: Sabine: And so my issue with Ares tends to be a culture that has grown under an assumption, false or otherwise, that everything is being reviewed. And me, a woman who once was invited to play a not to be named WoD MUSH that both banned ERP and required an example of ones RP as an application to join. And found that so elitist she sent them a TS log.
25-12-09 00:19:36: Adela: I applaud that kind of petty
25-12-09 00:19:43: Adela: That is exactly my kind of petty
25-12-09 00:20:45: Bogdan: :thinks there are good things and bad things about any approach to the hobby.
25-12-09 00:22:37: Sabine: There is very little wrong with .most approaches. Some of them are just not for me.
25-12-09 00:24:40: Ada: I'm going to say 'scoring someone's RP before letting them in' is a bananas weird approach and I wouldn't go there.
25-12-09 00:25:10: Sabine: And in the end, we are all here under the generous aegis of Ada's NO HOLDS BARRED CAGE MATCH. And that will over time be where some of us go, and some of us will find that isn't what we want.
25-12-09 00:25:22: Adela: I apped onto a superhero game back in the dark times.  Which wanted me to write the entire comic history of a character that was over 60 years old.  It took me 2 months.
25-12-09 00:25:36: Adela: I have no idea why I put that much effort into it.
25-12-09 00:26:00: Bogdan: . . .
25-12-09 00:26:07: Ada: That's utterly bananas.
25-12-09 00:26:25: Bogdan: I am also lol'ing at the idea of a WoD game with no ERP.
25-12-09 00:27:46: Ada: People can ERP all they want. I'd be a little surprised if they /did/, here, because there are assuredly more interesting outlets for that than my weird not-Warhammer L&L thing, but if they do, sure, fine. Everyone's an adult and so are the characters.
25-12-09 00:28:04: Sabine: Bogdan, a quite wise man, who i later had a very stupid falling out with that was totally my fault, once told me 'I know vampires don't have sex, you know vampires don't have sex. But without vampires sex we wouldn't have a game.' and that has formed a basis of my opinion for me not judging others ever since.
25-12-09 00:29:52: Sabine: As for absolutely silly background requirements and also xp requirements. My beginnings were on the WW official moderated chats. You may judge me as you will and I am deserving of your scorn. But I to remember the time where we thought things like strict travel times and five page essays to raise a kill to average were good ideas.
25-12-09 00:30:15: Sabine: skill not kill
25-12-09 00:30:16: Eliza: :coughs, "What's ERP?"
25-12-09 00:30:30: Melissa: :whispers "I have no idea."
25-12-09 00:30:31: Sieglinde: SMUT WRITING!
25-12-09 00:30:57: Eliza: Oh, us old people call that TS.
25-12-09 00:31:20: Sieglinde: also, banning ts on a /wod/ game is a fucking choice lmao
25-12-09 00:32:35: Sabine: That MUSH in particular was an incredibly wild ride. And somehow lasted forever.
25-12-09 00:33:05: Eliza: I've never played WoD. It seems...so complicated. And full of drama.
25-12-09 00:33:14: Bogdan: There are so many weird trends in MU*ing.  Like how every mid-tier metropolitan area had both a Shadowrun and WoD game.  Toledo by Night.
25-12-09 00:33:35: Sabine: Eliza, don't. And I will put on my serious face for a moment.
25-12-09 00:34:03: Eliza: I don't really like 'everything is bad' games. If I wanted that I'd just watch the news.
25-12-09 00:35:03: Ada: I tried a WoD game for a few months. I was twice, by two unrelated people, subjected to people showing up to rooms the instant my character was on grid, and paging me whenever I was online and my character wasn't on grid, to see what I was doing.
25-12-09 00:35:21: Udo: Hot take: I don't like celebrity PBs because I'm playing games like this to escape the real world and a celebrity PB breaks that.
25-12-09 00:35:25: Sieglinde: I -love- the WoD. I don't think i'll ever play a WoD MU again
25-12-09 00:35:55: Udo: Heck, I really don't like photos of people for PBs for the same reason.
25-12-09 00:36:06: Sabine: The WoD MUSH community has reached in my opinion, for what it is worth, a point where after thirty years of trauma and just incredibly bad culture on what it means to ve in a game. A point where it is so toxic that it does not even realize what it is doing is toxic. Like an abuse survivor that goes on to abuse on their own because they don't understand it is abuse, and just see it as how one solves that situation because it is all they have ever known.
25-12-09 00:36:09: Eliza: I kind of like PBs because I hate writing descriptions.
25-12-09 00:36:31: Sabine: So I cannot, in good conscious, tell anyone to go play a WoD MUSH.
25-12-09 00:36:32: Eliza: But I do agree it's a bit weird when they're real people actors and sometimes wonder what they might think as to what the characters get up to
25-12-09 00:36:53: Sabine: Also Eliza, I am just bad at writing, so I feel you. I feel you.
25-12-09 00:38:07: Eliza: It's like when people write fanfic about actors or singers. I find it creepy.
25-12-09 00:38:17: Eliza: And there's SO MUCH OF IT
25-12-09 00:39:01: Sabine: :closes all her AO3 tabs real quick.
25-12-09 00:39:29: Udo: Oddly I think some of the toxic people from the WoD community somehow thought that WoD by default was toxic so they shifted to other IPs and now we have games like AoA.
25-12-09 00:39:43: Eliza: AoA?
25-12-09 00:40:18: Udo: Age of Alliances, the Star Wars game notorious for the staff-clique that will straight up abuse anyone that doesn't fall in line with their nonsense.
25-12-09 00:40:32: Eliza: You could've just stopped at 'Star Wars game'
25-12-09 00:40:39: Sabine: :makes a motion to Udo.
25-12-09 00:40:54: Sabine: One day we will get a good one.
25-12-09 00:40:54: Udo: :seconds the motion.
25-12-09 00:40:57: Sieglinde: That's why we're here, actually.
25-12-09 00:41:09: Sabine: I just have not bribed Theno enough yet.
25-12-09 00:41:39: Sieglinde: A handful of us were playing there, and, well, we quit. Because Reasons. Half of which isn't my tale to tell, but I can tell you exactly whose fault it is.
25-12-09 00:41:55: Udo: I have a hot take on Star Wars games too. Star Wars MUs should be solely about Force users, or have absolutely /no/ Force users.
25-12-09 00:42:16: Ada: Let me know if you want to run one and I'll implement a sheet and dice roller for it, and you can have that and this whole bundle of mostly-functional code.
25-12-09 00:42:36: Ada: A Star Wars game about like one spaceship crew or something would be fun.
25-12-09 00:42:51: Eliza: I admit to being exasperated and puzzled by the swings this hobby takes. Back when I was most active, it was frowned upon for staff to have favorites and make their friends the Most Important. But now that seems like...the thing. That it's fine if staff just want to run for their friends and too bad if they don't like you cause it's their fun too. Which...I sort of see. But also...that sucks.
25-12-09 00:43:10: Sieglinde: I either want to run one set in the vast old reaches of the old republic, or smash disney and eu canon together and do a post ot game.
25-12-09 00:43:41: Adela: I wanna run a Stormtrooper only game dealing with Tarkin experiments.  Or rather, run that as a Tabletop
25-12-09 00:43:42: Sieglinde: cujo's been doing that shit for years, it just finally caught up to me and people i give a shit about.
25-12-09 00:44:02: Udo: I think people are starting to realize that a smaller group of players who want the same thing is far better for a game than trying to make something for the masses.
25-12-09 00:44:24: Adela: No mush survives interaction with a playerbase.  It's true.
25-12-09 00:45:04: Eliza: I think we called those sandboxes. Which are totally fine by me...so long as you haven't opened your game to the masses and yet are still running a sandbox. That's just frustrating.
25-12-09 00:45:15: Eliza: I played on a Star Wars game once for like two minutes. I want to say...Sagas?
25-12-09 00:45:16: Udo: If I ever start a game again, I'm probably going to have a 0-alt policy and limit the max number of players to something between 20 and 50 depending on the setting.
25-12-09 00:45:24: Sieglinde: I also wanted to run a power rangers/kamen rider game >_>
25-12-09 00:45:47: Sabine: Eliza. We matured. I am going to be barred pressed to do this at work.
25-12-09 00:45:50: Udo: I'm so sad Super Sentai got put on indefinite hiatus.
25-12-09 00:46:31: Eliza: The problem with maturing is that if I stay up until 2 am to finish a scene I then need to sleep for 3 days and it's a week before I log in again.
25-12-09 00:47:16: Sieglinde: Yeah, it's sad, but, man. ZE, ZE, ZEZTZ is killing it.
25-12-09 00:47:24: Udo: If I didn't have my current job schedule, I'd probably wake up at 9 pm and go to bed at 10 am.
25-12-09 00:47:38: Sieglinde: same, honestly.
25-12-09 00:47:39: Udo: My doctor has told me that he fully believes my biological clock is nocturnal.
25-12-09 00:47:39: Adela: that made me giggle
25-12-09 00:48:06: Sabine: Staff 'perfect objectivity' is only a thing because of PVP, and the concept of a game as a zero sum game. Where the motivation for playing is not to tell a story or to enjoy a hobby with people who are also into this hobby. But as an escapist form of ego massaging. Where the point is for /you/ to win, for you to be in charge, for you to show how totally smart and cool and awesome you are and how life is unfair to you IRL and you are really a super genius.
25-12-09 00:49:45: Sabine: And so, the switch between 'Staff must be perfectly objective and if I lose in a game where /you can't fukkin win/ it is only because there was cheating' and where we have found ourselves where hey, Ada is presumably a real person and not a government robot who is just in this hobby is... Koline.
25-12-09 00:50:38: Sabine: And the fact that none of us to my knowledge have any ill thoughts towards her or any reason to be upset because she is empress and not us. And the realization that Koline is just another player with a role.
25-12-09 00:51:02: Sabine: Thos has been Sabine hot takes, if you wish to unsubscribe... To bad.
25-12-09 00:53:42: Sieglinde: I'm only interested in if I can sleep with Koli----I mean what.
25-12-09 00:54:00: Adela: I like sailboats
25-12-09 00:54:36: Bogdan: And you cannot lie.
25-12-09 00:54:37: Eliza: Being Empress sounds like a lot of work
25-12-09 00:55:04: Sabine: That is how you solve the liars puzzle Bogdan.
25-12-09 00:55:21: Sabine: You just ask if they like big butts. The one that answers yes cannot lie.
25-12-09 00:56:03: Adela: Well, the actual answer is in the description of the puzzle.  Either the one who told you that one tells the truth and the other lies, is telling the truth, or the game is rigged.
25-12-09 00:56:07: Ada: I do in fact work for the government where I live but that amusing thought aside, yes, I am a real person. :D
25-12-09 00:56:28: Adela: I always assume the game is rigged.  And never chose down.
25-12-09 00:58:15: Sieglinde: shit, it's the federales, we gotta get outta here!
25-12-09 00:58:29: Sieglinde: :has disconnected.
25-12-09 01:00:54: Ada: Nobody's ever going to be perfectly objective. I think the one thing I can really say here is that if someone wants to have more things going on, they can just let me know, because I'm happy to write stuff.
25-12-09 01:01:05: Sieglinde: :>_> <_< are the feds still here, did it work?
25-12-09 01:02:23: Melissa: Also if half the game suddenly decides they wish to see Melissa dead I promise its so much less trouble just to tell me and i'll leave than to plot IC!
25-12-09 01:04:22: Irreth: No one is allowed to kill Melissa! I have declared it so.
25-12-09 01:04:29: Sabine: But you are my friend Melissa. ;_;
25-12-09 01:04:55: Irreth: If they do, I'll send Umberto after them.
25-12-09 01:06:51: Melissa: Aww I love you guys too
25-12-09 01:09:58: Sabine: Umberto isn't much of a threat.
25-12-09 01:10:05: Sabine: He forgets who I am.
25-12-09 01:15:59: Ada: To pick up on a much earlier point, Udo, yeah, I kind of agree that a game for players with specific interests is the way to go. I was kind of figuring it would be good to get 30-ish people come by here. I realise the roster's much bigger, and in retrospect I'm glad it was, because it hit 65 claimed characters to 40 available. Now that rush is gone, there are alts available.
25-12-09 01:16:39: Ada: Not sure why I settled on 30-ish. Just a vague notion I had.
25-12-09 01:16:52: Sabine: I remember when I had the focus and energy to be able to handle not only two characters but multiple windows at once....
25-12-09 01:17:01: Sabine: 30 is a good number is why
25-12-09 01:21:18: Sieglinde: I remember being in, like, 5 scenes at once across different games, halfway hammered, and nobody noticed
25-12-09 01:21:32: Sieglinde: But i'm sure as hell not in my 20s anymore
25-12-09 01:21:46: Udo: I can do multiple characters, but I never put all of them in scenes actively at the same time.
25-12-09 01:28:04: Sabine: Now to request that Udo's sfx be his ability to be in multiple places at once.
25-12-09 01:30:18: Ada: ;implements arcane experience system to get sheet changes.
25-12-09 01:31:09: Sabine: Like we are not past masters of navigating those Ada.
25-12-09 01:32:34: Ada: Much more seriously, I don't think there's any real point to bothering with experience systems on games.
25-12-09 01:33:21: Ada: It encourages behaviour I don't think is very much fun, like big vote get-togethers.
25-12-09 01:33:46: Dietrich: :waves.
25-12-09 01:33:53: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
25-12-09 01:34:04: Sabine: The Deets.
25-12-09 01:34:13: Dietrich: How is?
25-12-09 01:34:42: Sabine: And I have similar thoughts Ada but that is a long convo and one that will bore many. And I am about to leave work to go home and eat.
25-12-09 01:35:01: Dietrich: What are we having thoughts on?
25-12-09 01:35:12: Ada: Experience systems on games.
25-12-09 01:35:13: Eliza: I want to play more but damn the holiday season is kicking my ass
25-12-09 01:35:46: Eliza: I have to make 3 dozen chocolate covered oreos for the middle school teachers by Wednesday. We haven't even decorated the tree yet!
25-12-09 01:35:46: Sabine: Eliza, have you considered abandoning your old family for this, slightly scuffed but still serviceable, new family?
25-12-09 01:36:08: Eliza: Sabine, if I abandoned them no one would ever figure out how to change a toilet paper roll and it would be madness.
25-12-09 01:37:01: Sabine: Yeah but think, how are /we/ changing toilet paper rolls without you?
25-12-09 01:37:58: Eliza: What would we even roll for that? Survival? Performance?!
25-12-09 01:39:03: Dietrich: Mind
25-12-09 01:39:09: Ada: Administration. Get a servant to do it.
25-12-09 01:40:13: Eliza: hahahahaha
25-12-09 01:40:51: Ada: Probably cause some sort of schism over the orientation of the toilet roll.
25-12-09 01:45:46: Eliza: a 1 and you get 2 ply.
25-12-09 01:53:03: Ada: ;adds this to Albalaski's list of problems.
25-12-09 02:15:16: Sabine: We made it home.
25-12-09 02:27:57: Ada: Hooray.
25-12-09 02:29:11: Sabine: :nods
25-12-09 14:29:03: Adela: :waves
25-12-09 14:29:26: Bogdan: Hullo!
25-12-09 15:01:37: Ada: How's Tuesday treating you?
25-12-09 15:02:23: Adela: Watching The Ones who Survive
25-12-09 15:02:33: Adela: Considering doing some Helldives
25-12-09 15:07:33: Ada: Is that the Walking Dead one?
25-12-09 15:28:37: Adela: The Ones who Survive is yeah.  The Rick and Michonne spinoff
25-12-09 15:29:19: Adela: It's alright, but I think it's the weakest of the spinoffs, despite having two of the best chars as the leads
25-12-09 15:31:08: Ada: I never got to any of them myself. I fell off the main series in I think the fifth season. How do the spin-offs compare?
25-12-09 15:32:00: Adela: Well, the main series got a little weird from season 5 to season 9... but then it go incredibly good.  Like /really/ good.  They brought back old writers and some of the dialogue is super sharp.
25-12-09 15:32:41: Adela: the Spin-offs are all pretty good.  Dead City Is Maggie and Negan in New York.  Book of Daryl is, obviously, about Daryl.  In France for some reason, but... *SHRUGS*  Whatever.  Carol started in season 2 of that.  And Carol is my favorite char.
25-12-09 15:33:35: Adela: The Ones who Live is Michonne looking for Rick.  Who's been missing for 6 years at this point
25-12-09 15:34:57: Adela: SO in my opinion, pretty good all around.  But I like zombie media
25-12-09 15:35:20: Ada: How does he even get to France? I feel a key point early in the story was how hard travel was.
25-12-09 15:38:17: Adela: He joined a smuggler crew or something, it was a little weird admittedly
25-12-09 15:39:01: Adela: In fairness, there would be a lot less concerns travelling at sea.  Which people have been doing for hundreds of years
25-12-09 15:40:48: Adela: But they could have had him be in California and he'd have been as isolated as he was being in France.  In that world, crossing a few thousand miles of land would be as difficult as crossing a few hundred miles of ocean.
25-12-09 15:43:31: Ada: I assume they did some interesting stuff with French landmarks at least.
25-12-09 15:43:50: Adela: They definitely did.
25-12-09 15:44:06: Adela: They went to London last season, that was cool.
25-12-09 15:45:05: Adela: Stephen Merchant was in it and I love me some Stephen Merchant.
25-12-09 15:49:39: Ada: Neat. I might give the French one a look. After all, I look in on the Tour de France now and then for no more reason than to see some cool pictures of French countryside.
25-12-09 15:50:04: Adela: They're curently in Spain for the last two seasons.
25-12-09 15:50:43: Adela: I find it incredibly amusing that Daryl, played by a dude from Florida, goes to Europe and Rick, played by a dude from Britain, is still in America.  Despite that being why Andrew left the show.
25-12-09 15:53:27: Ada: That was a big commute.
25-12-09 15:53:54: Adela: lol yeah.
25-12-09 15:54:03: Adela: For almost 6 months out of a year
25-12-09 16:04:12: Ada: I can just about put up with my 30 minute walk!
25-12-09 16:06:29: Adela: 30 min walks sounds like agony
25-12-09 16:08:39: Ada: I could try public transport but there's no guarantee it would save time, since it's all through the city centre.
25-12-09 17:37:14: Sabine: It is to cold, I would like this to change.
25-12-09 17:40:19: Melissa: I feel like I've assimilated to Minnesota weather. I actually said "oh it's warm today!" at 25 degrees this morning.
25-12-09 17:41:02: Sabine: To cold. -_-
25-12-10 00:35:33: Melissa: Yay chapter 2!
25-12-10 00:35:56: Ada: It's mostly just an administrative toggle/the clock ticking forwards.
25-12-10 00:37:46: Melissa: And chapter roll overs also grant org resources (to throw at castle buildings)
25-12-10 00:40:23: Ada: Yup! Reminding me to press the button to disburse it all there. :D
25-12-10 00:59:05: Emil: Hello, world.
25-12-10 00:59:14: Ada: Hey, Emil! How are things?
25-12-10 00:59:29: Emil: Counting down ever steadily to my long winter vacay.
25-12-10 00:59:34: Emil: How are things with you?
25-12-10 01:00:30: Ada: Pretty solid. I've a 12-ish hour work day tomorrow which is a bit naff, but swings and roundabouts; the Christmas period is three weeks of not very much even if I don't take time off, which I will.
25-12-10 01:01:11: Emil: oof. 12 hours! Good luck with it!
25-12-10 01:03:37: Ada: Thanks!
25-12-10 02:02:28: Sabine: Another day done.
25-12-10 02:02:35: Ada: Hope it was a good one.
25-12-10 02:02:45: Sabine: It was ok, only...
25-12-10 02:02:53: Sabine: :checks calendar.
25-12-10 02:03:00: Sabine: Twenty seven more years to go
25-12-10 02:06:41: Melissa: Ive given up on the thought there will be anything left when its time to retire! Work till I die
25-12-10 02:06:59: Adela: :fist pumps for wtid
25-12-10 02:53:12: Sabine: :just screams into the void.
25-12-10 03:11:07: Ada: The poor void.
25-12-10 03:13:10: Dietrich: Greetings
25-12-10 03:13:57: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
25-12-10 03:15:02: Adela: I love the explanation in The Martian of how he's a space pirate
25-12-10 03:15:30: Dietrich: Wait. WAIT. I want to be an IC space pirate?
25-12-10 03:15:43: Dietrich: /THEY/ probably have outfits
25-12-10 03:15:50: Adela: They're probably stylish
25-12-10 03:16:07: Dietrich: :is stylish.
25-12-10 03:22:12: Sabine: Hello Deets.
25-12-10 03:27:42: Dietrich: What are we all doing today?
25-12-10 03:29:53: Ada: Making Sabine scream at the void, I think.
25-12-10 03:30:17: Sabine: :nods.
25-12-10 03:32:49: Dietrich: I just show up and that happens
25-12-10 03:41:10: Ada: Also I've started sprinkling out a few more happenings. I'll do a board post once every org has a new one to prompt people to look.
25-12-10 03:43:27: Dietrich: I shall join each of them.
25-12-10 03:53:35: Melissa: I dont know if you'd be a good fit for mine.
25-12-10 04:08:06: Dietrich: It's a perfect fit
25-12-10 04:36:54: Sabine: Melissaaaaaaaa
25-12-10 04:37:02: Sabine: :puts her hand up to the plexiglass
25-12-10 12:42:46: Zaria: Beep beep.
25-12-10 12:43:10: Ada: Good afternoon!
25-12-10 12:43:23: Zaria: Or 7:43 am!
25-12-10 12:45:12: Ada: Or that. Hope life's treating you decently.
25-12-10 12:50:16: Zaria: On the upswing of a rather nasty series of sickness hitting me one after the other!  It's been a rough few weeks.
25-12-10 12:51:50: Ada: Sorry to hear it. Glad you're on the up and up though.
25-12-10 12:52:18: Zaria: Now I just have to catch up to story, get some hooks, and get active.
25-12-10 12:58:32: Ada: org house albalaski will show a few current events for it as well as the story command.
25-12-10 20:09:26: Sabine: Oh, I didn't log off again.
25-12-10 20:11:11: Sabine: :fails.
25-12-10 20:25:14: Ada: It really limits your sneezing opportunities.
25-12-10 20:26:31: Sabine: Indeed!
25-12-10 20:26:36: Sabine: A true tragedy.
25-12-10 20:26:57: Sabine: But I got to figure out an action anyways so it works out.
25-12-10 20:52:43: Ada: Woo.
25-12-10 21:24:06: Koline: :surfaces. x.x
25-12-10 21:26:26: Sabine: Hello Koline. I hope all is well, or at least manageable.
25-12-10 21:26:54: Koline: This is the craziest time of year for work, so much OT. x.x
25-12-10 21:27:04: Koline: :is surviving, but it's hell for having hobbies!
25-12-10 21:32:16: Sabine: Know those feels, though luckily my time for massive OT tends to be a lil earlier in the year.
25-12-10 21:32:23: Sabine: Well lucky for me.
25-12-10 21:32:40: Sabine: But I wish yiu the best of luck in making it through.
25-12-11 01:03:28: Ada: Whew, home.
25-12-11 01:03:31: Ada: Welcome, Jerzy!
25-12-11 01:12:13: Erika: Welcome!
25-12-11 01:12:38: Sabine: Ada has returned to us, with Jerzy from the Sikorin shores.
25-12-11 01:14:58: Ada: That is my last late evening for the year, and till at least mid-January.
25-12-11 01:17:40: Erika: That's pretty exciting. What do you plan to do with your newfound freedom?
25-12-11 01:20:46: Sabine: Rue the day they let me in here.
25-12-11 01:21:42: Ada: I've spent a lot of time up late looking at screens and writing things, so I might spend a lot of time up late looking at screens and writing things and doing some painting.
25-12-11 01:22:14: Erika: I like it. That's true ambition.
25-12-11 01:24:49: Ada: I might even take a weekend away.
25-12-11 02:04:32: Melissa: Oooo away!
25-12-11 02:20:05: Sabine: We made it.
25-12-11 02:33:06: Jerzy: :returns and waves!
25-12-11 02:33:15: Sabine: Hello
25-12-11 02:34:52: Ada: Hey, Jerzy!
25-12-11 02:35:24: Sabine: :plots quietly
25-12-11 02:43:09: Melissa: Hello Jerzy!
25-12-11 02:48:33: Sabine: Melisssssaaaaaa
25-12-11 02:49:20: Melissa: Sabbbbine
25-12-11 02:54:10: Sabine: :holds her hand up to the plexiglass.
25-12-11 02:55:22: Melissa: I'm concerned, which of us is locked away?
25-12-11 02:55:43: Sabine: It is an art piece, so it is up to the viewer.
25-12-11 03:43:14: Despina: Hellooo
25-12-11 03:44:50: Zoja: Hello!
25-12-11 03:46:05: Sabine: hELLO
25-12-11 03:46:31: Sabine: I should go out and see if I can't spot Melissa from a distance.
25-12-11 03:48:42: Ada: You can RP while spotting. Anyway, I am off, and shall resume more regular me-ing tomorrow!
25-12-11 03:50:41: Sabine: Night Ada!
25-12-11 04:58:04: Melissa: I missed all the staring, sorry Sabine!
25-12-11 05:07:00: Sabine: Alas.
25-12-11 05:07:05: Sabine: One day
25-12-11 13:51:01: Eliza: :falls over
25-12-11 13:52:26: Ada: How's Thursday treating you?
25-12-11 13:56:41: Eliza: nnngh
25-12-11 13:56:46: Eliza: Too much to do too few hours in the day!
25-12-11 14:02:17: Ada: I get that. Absolutely everything under the sun crammed into December, then January has mostly nothing.
25-12-11 19:30:08: Dietrich: :waves
25-12-11 20:13:01: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
25-12-11 20:13:19: Dietrich: How is?
25-12-11 20:13:25: Dietrich: What are we all doing tonight?
25-12-11 20:17:48: Ada: I'm not working, so there's that! Unlike the last couple.
25-12-11 20:18:00: Dietrich: Yay, for not working!
25-12-11 20:18:11: Dietrich: I"m off for the evening.
25-12-11 20:18:18: Dietrich: I have to go back tomorrow though.
25-12-11 20:36:03: Ada: I think you're just describing a week!
25-12-11 20:43:57: Dietrich: ...
25-12-11 20:43:59: Dietrich: Oh
25-12-11 20:44:32: Dietrich: I have Saturday off. But I agreed to go to a holiday party and now I have regrets.
25-12-11 21:16:04: Ada: I can sympathise, though I think I have most seasonal engagements behind me, by now.
25-12-11 21:18:53: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-11 21:19:00: Guest1: :waves
25-12-11 21:19:23: Ada: If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
25-12-11 21:20:40: Guest1: ty! just looking at rosters and such
25-12-11 21:28:58: Melissa: Guest!
25-12-11 21:29:14: Ada: They headed off!
25-12-11 21:30:34: Melissa: Oh noes
25-12-11 21:34:47: Dietrich: Melissa scared them.
25-12-11 21:34:51: Dietrich: :nods.
25-12-11 21:35:44: Melissa: I do feel particularly scary today
25-12-11 21:41:46: Dietrich: See?
25-12-11 21:41:52: Dietrich: I'm completely frightened
25-12-11 21:42:39: Dietrich: :nudged Koline with his foot.
25-12-11 23:43:01: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-11 23:44:09: Dietrich: Greetings Guest!
25-12-11 23:58:50: Jerzy: Hello!
25-12-12 00:02:11: Ada: Hey, Jerzy!
25-12-12 00:04:30: Dietrich: Greetings!
25-12-12 00:05:23: Dietrich: Oh, look someone to help Melissa with her crumbling castle issue
25-12-12 00:05:32: Dietrich: :suggested fire, it was rejected.
25-12-12 00:13:03: Irreth: Hi Jerzy! Ooh, I bet a lot of people will love that you picked up the character. Urumil's looking for an engineer too I believe!
25-12-12 00:13:43: Koline: :peeks in, sees she's been nudged with a foot.
25-12-12 00:13:55: Ada: Hey, Koline!
25-12-12 00:14:01: Irreth: Is the foot in the room with you?
25-12-12 00:14:57: Dietrich: It can be!
25-12-12 00:15:07: Dietrich: :goes to Koline's room to nudge more.
25-12-12 00:15:25: Dietrich: :braids her hair as they gossip about court.
25-12-12 00:15:59: Koline: My hair is so short though @.@
25-12-12 00:16:18: Dietrich: ...
25-12-12 00:16:19: Irreth: So is mine. Otherwise we totally would've braided each other's hair too.
25-12-12 00:16:24: Dietrich: Tiny braids?
25-12-12 00:16:35: Koline: :has the whole Louise Brooks bob thing going on.
25-12-12 00:16:47: Dietrich: :considers this.
25-12-12 00:17:01: Dietrich: :gives extensions, then braids.
25-12-12 00:17:10: Koline: Acceptable.
25-12-12 00:17:19: Dietrich: OH! /Braids/ in the hair.
25-12-12 00:17:25: Dietrich: Full circle
25-12-12 00:18:14: Dietrich: I got my cat a heated blanket and now he just lives on it. He meows when it shuts off though.
25-12-12 00:18:52: Koline: :curls up on her own heated blanket. Will see you all tomorrow. x.x
25-12-12 00:19:00: Ada: Good night!
25-12-12 00:19:06: Dietrich: Not if we see you first!
25-12-12 02:01:49: Sabine: :clocks in.
25-12-12 02:06:43: Dietrich: :considers it volunteer work and does not pay.
25-12-12 02:07:04: Dietrich: :sings, "Saaaaaabine... I need a thiiiing."
25-12-12 02:07:37: Erika: Don't do it, Sabine. Demand stock options and a benefits package.
25-12-12 02:08:57: Dietrich: I just need to hold something of yours for just a little bit of time.
25-12-12 02:09:35: Sabine: It isn't mine to lend out.
25-12-12 02:09:47: Dietrich: You can be there. I just want to touch it.
25-12-12 02:12:38: Dietrich: You are going to make me /walk/ to the Companions tower, aren't you
25-12-12 02:15:27: Sabine: I mean, that is also the wrong place. ^_^
25-12-12 02:15:37: Dietrich: ...
25-12-12 02:15:58: Sabine: It's in the chapel if Sabine isn't actively wearing it.
25-12-12 02:16:11: Dietrich: We have a chapel?
25-12-12 02:16:21: Sabine: Yes. You have to deal with Udo.
25-12-12 02:16:21: Dietrich: Where I can see it?
25-12-12 02:16:27: Sabine: Yeah.
25-12-12 02:16:28: Dietrich: :makes a note.
25-12-12 02:16:45: Dietrich: :summons Udo
25-12-12 02:20:46: Dietrich: But Sabine, you /could/ get it to like practice with it right?
25-12-12 02:36:59: Sabine: I mean I could, yes.
25-12-12 02:37:11: Sabine: Then kill anyone I was practicing with.
25-12-12 02:38:09: Sabine: The only other person who can handle its power is Melissa.
25-12-12 02:39:44: Dietrich: .... interesting.
25-12-12 03:13:37: Dietrich: All right, I guess I'm going to go read.
25-12-12 03:13:42: Dietrich: Have a great night.
25-12-12 14:03:16: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-12 14:04:34: Guest1: Yo yo!
25-12-12 14:05:24: Ada: App's all set.
25-12-12 14:08:46: Guest1: Thank you!
25-12-12 14:39:52: Cham: Hey Ada! How new is this game/avg player count?
25-12-12 14:47:07: Ada: Opened on 31 October. Evenings see 10-15 on, though we've passed 20 for a couple of events.
25-12-12 15:14:57: Melissa: Good morning!
25-12-12 15:17:44: Cham: Hello!
25-12-12 15:17:59: Ada: Hey, Melissa!
25-12-12 15:24:03: Melissa: It is 10 degrees and snowing again
25-12-12 15:25:44: Ada: That is far too cold.
25-12-12 15:44:31: Melissa: After living in a place with no seasons besides hell, it's so nice to see them again that I'm not even mad! I'd rather be a little cold than have the back of my knees sweat just by existing!
25-12-12 16:17:08: Ada: That is just a remarkable description of hot weather. :D
25-12-12 16:21:17: Cham: Is the craft command for wearable clothes as well?
25-12-12 16:21:40: Ada: Yup.
25-12-12 16:22:18: Cham: Am I able to incorporate ansi colors
25-12-12 16:22:50: Melissa: Yes!
25-12-12 16:23:07: Melissa: Just use | and not {
25-12-12 16:23:12: Cham: Wish me luck lol, trial and error here we go! Thanks
25-12-12 16:23:16: Ada: Or xterm - see color xterm
25-12-12 17:39:15: Cham: Anyway to change the base description of a room or is that a staff request or petition opposed to places in a room?
25-12-12 17:40:16: Melissa: Help home (home/desc) might help!
25-12-12 17:40:31: Cham: Thank you!
25-12-12 17:43:05: Melissa: I also have no idea if that works. I haven't described my bedroom because my will to describe a room is tiny at the moment.
25-12-12 17:44:07: Sabine: :clocks in.
25-12-12 17:46:26: Melissa: Sabine!
25-12-12 17:46:55: Sabine: Melissa!
25-12-12 17:48:05: Sabine: Hope you are well.
25-12-12 17:52:45: Melissa: I don't know yet! I had two cups of coffee this morning so I'm vibrating
25-12-12 17:53:37: Sabine: I also have a... oh you are vibrating.
25-12-12 17:56:08: Sabine: :checks he to do list.
25-12-12 17:56:42: Melissa: Pfft!
25-12-12 17:56:58: Sabine: :also checks her to don't list.
25-12-12 17:58:41: Sabine: Ok, I need to finalize exactly how I want to word this action, then I have like, a dozen people I need to trap in corners for discussions.
25-12-12 17:58:45: Sabine: And one Melissa.
25-12-12 18:03:25: Cham: I may have outdone myself on this description
25-12-12 18:03:46: Sabine: Is it three pages long?
25-12-12 18:04:31: Cham: If that is the bar then I'm short quite a bit of change heh. But it is quite visually appealing.
25-12-12 18:07:17: Sabine: Yeah but you are in competition with Melissa.
25-12-12 18:08:02: Sabine: And Udo, Sanctuarys most eligable bachelor.
25-12-12 18:26:47: Melissa: Sabine, I don't think I'm as visually appealing as a really comfortable chair.
25-12-12 18:27:31: Sabine: Yeah, but that is an unrealistic standard
25-12-12 18:27:39: Sabine: Is anyone more appealing than a comfy chair?
25-12-12 18:28:59: Melissa: I have left a bottle of fish oil pills in my car in 90 degree weather and they sorta got stuck together. My question now is if I leave the bottle I just bought in my car in 15 degree weather will they freeze?
25-12-12 18:29:28: Sabine: Only one way to find out. We call this science.
25-12-12 18:31:22: Melissa: I'll let you know in 3 hours.
25-12-12 18:32:40: Sabine: :nods. "Remember to write it down."
25-12-12 21:42:30: Cham: If I used Ansi for a place object do I have to specify the ansi code version to look at it? A wide cedarwood, golden-engraved Bed - place/look bed or otherwise including fully typed out in English does not seem to work
25-12-12 21:44:27: Ada: I probably still have places using older search code when you look at them.
25-12-12 21:45:23: Ada: Which is to say, probably don't use colours for now, and I'll add it to my code list, though it's pretty low urgency.
25-12-12 21:45:50: Cham: Okay! No worries :)
25-12-12 21:49:47: Ada: There are probably still some anomalies in the code. My current project when I look in on it is to bring the web action interface up to full parity with the (hideous) in-game set of commands.
25-12-12 22:11:36: Melissa: Sabine they are not frozen from what I can see.
25-12-12 23:30:17: Dietrich: :waves!
25-12-12 23:39:35: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
25-12-12 23:42:57: Irreth: Evening!
25-12-12 23:43:35: Dietrich: How is everyone?
25-12-12 23:43:39: Ada: Hey, Irreth! Anadun has another happening. I forget if I put in offline notifications for those.
25-12-12 23:43:46: Sabine: Hooray, Melissa has unfrozen fish
25-12-12 23:44:21: Dietrich: ...
25-12-12 23:45:33: Melissa: I think frozen would have been okay, the melted ones I had to poke and shake to get unstuck.
25-12-12 23:46:17: Sabine: Oh baby
25-12-12 23:49:37: Sabine: Unstuck me, Melissa, please.
25-12-12 23:49:48: Irreth: Ooh, no I didn't see, thank you!
25-12-13 00:01:18: Dietrich: I have books in every room of the house. I can't decide which one to read.
25-12-13 00:15:41: Sabine: The good one
25-12-13 00:16:49: Irreth: I know THAT conundrum. Except it's piles of books around my place plus all the half-started books on my kindle. And the many ones I haven't started.
25-12-13 00:17:04: Melissa: Stand in a room, close your eyes, and the plot/characters of a book that pops into your mind first is the one you should pick up.
25-12-13 00:17:07: Sabine: Just go read Lord of Light by Zelazny
25-12-13 00:17:14: Sabine: Then have Melissa come save me
25-12-13 00:17:34: Melissa: Who do you need saving from!?
25-12-13 00:18:06: Melissa: Irreth, finding free kindle days has made my poor kindle explode with so many unfinished books to start.
25-12-13 00:18:40: Dietrich: Free kindle days?
25-12-13 00:18:43: Irreth: Omg, sammmme.
25-12-13 00:18:45: Sabine: My boredom and accidental milk ingestion, Melissa.
25-12-13 00:19:00: Irreth: There's a bunch of 'stuff your kindle' days where lots of authors put books for free for a short period.
25-12-13 00:19:00: Dietrich: I read the books, I don't half start them. I tend to start and finish.
25-12-13 00:19:24: Melissa: Kindle hosts indie author days where authors can submit their books and you can download them for free on those themed days.
25-12-13 00:20:48: Dietrich: I had a friend offload their books to me (oh no, the horror) and now. I have piles in each room and then a pile of read books that I don't know what I should do with.
25-12-13 00:20:56: Irreth: I ususally switch when I'm not in the mood for certain things. I'm on a big scifi kick right now.
25-12-13 00:22:27: Melissa: I donated all my physical books to the assisted living I was working in before moving. I couldnt drag them all with me, it was 5 large moving boxes, and they were books I got for free from other people donating them to places I worked so I hadnt even read any of them so it was fine, I wasnt attached to them.
25-12-13 00:22:49: Melissa: I do miss actual books, its just my Kindle is so much easier to carry.
25-12-13 00:22:49: Sabine: Lord of Liiiiiight
25-12-13 00:22:57: Sabine: Or Sewer, Gas, and Electric
25-12-13 00:23:12: Dietrich: Bills?
25-12-13 00:23:41: Sabine: The Public Works Trilogy by Matt Ruff
25-12-13 00:23:54: Sabine: The other is Zelazny doing not Amber.
25-12-13 00:24:10: Sabine: And has the pinnacle of opening lines.
25-12-13 00:24:34: Dietrich: It was the worst of times, it was the best of times?
25-12-13 00:24:46: Sabine: His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god, but then he never claimed not to be a god.
25-12-13 01:06:20: Ada: I've done to an extent mostly player-driven events so far. With a quietish weekend ahead, though I'm unlikely to schedule something at this stage, I have a question: are people interested in spontaneous me-driven events too? e.g. a few PCs just happen to be somewhere and a thing happens.
25-12-13 01:06:54: Sabine: I am entirely not against it. She says, having spent three days trying to plot an action.
25-12-13 01:07:34: Ada: On that, having had people wait a few weeks to get the whole group together for an event, I kind of want to be like 'just do it with two of you and we'll do another event later'.
25-12-13 01:08:13: Ada: In fact, I /have/ said that. Getting five specific MUSH players online at once in a reliable way is a unicorn.
25-12-13 01:10:17: Ada: Anyway I have an inkling of what your action pitch is. :D
25-12-13 01:10:28: Sabine: /Do you/?
25-12-13 01:11:21: Sabine: action/pitch The Action=Hello, yes, Ada. I would like to snort some crushed warpstone off of Umberto's butt. Thank you.
25-12-13 01:11:36: Ada: Yes but the moon is fine so it's not that.
25-12-13 01:11:59: Sabine: How do you know, have you seen the dark side?
25-12-13 01:12:59: Ada: I see all.
25-12-13 01:13:11: Sabine: Ok that is fair.
25-12-13 01:13:20: Sabine: :hides the warpstone stash.
25-12-13 01:13:44: Ada: I have given more thought to celestial bodies than is wholly apparent or reasonable, but when I made one of the major deities (is it a deity if it's more of a thing?) the Sun, I sort of had to.
25-12-13 01:14:45: Sabine: THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN
25-12-13 01:16:55: Sabine: https://i.redd.it/mq8hi56mkpj21.jpg
25-12-13 01:18:36: Ada: ; rummages to find where it's from.
25-12-13 01:19:13: Sabine: Fallen London, and the rest of the series.
25-12-13 01:19:40: Ada: Ah-hah! I tried Sunless Sea but sort of sucked at it and don't think I played it for more than 90 minutes.
25-12-13 01:19:59: Sabine: As a /game/ I wouldn't say any of them are /exceptional/.
25-12-13 01:20:08: Sabine: As a lore dump, I love them so.
25-12-13 01:20:53: Sabine: But one of the core concepts is that Suns are gods, and the laws they wish for their area is carried on their light.
25-12-13 01:21:18: Sabine: Hence why they stashed London underground, without the light of the Sun things like death become more malleable.
25-12-13 01:25:22: Cham: LFRP is now tagged!
25-12-13 01:27:37: Ada: I never picked up on any of that, Sabine. Maybe I should revisit it!
25-12-13 01:28:58: Sabine: Oh yeah, it is very esoteric in its depths. I enjoy it a lot. But it is a /lot/ of deep diving.
25-12-13 01:29:35: Ada: That's a lot of sea puns!
25-12-13 01:30:14: Cham: Tis the sea-son.
25-12-13 01:30:18: Ada: Cham, let me know if you need a specific hook or two.
25-12-13 01:30:44: Cham: RP hook or plot hook?
25-12-13 01:30:52: Sabine: Fish hook
25-12-13 01:30:54: Ada: Heshbeh's been pretty quiet and has just the one 'happening' in place, which Cham's previous player opened up but didn't progress an action on.
25-12-13 01:31:16: Cham: Are you squidding me?
25-12-13 01:31:42: Ada: Into plots, specifically. Cham (and Anath) are both characters intended to be able to insert themselves into anyone's business, but it probably helps to know what some of that business /is/.
25-12-13 01:33:13: Cham: Alright. I'm still reading up on lore/fleshing my char out but soon I will likely be desiring an in depth conversation soon. Directions pointed, potential end goals, perhaps a better understanding of their role and or desired role to play etc, most importantly how I can contribute to the plot overall
25-12-13 01:35:39: Ada: Grab a boat, sail Sabine headlong into danger. Or, less flippantly, if you want house-related stuff, I can run Kothar as an NPC long enough to give a nudge or two.
25-12-13 01:36:27: Cham: Hold my wine.
25-12-13 01:37:43: Sabine: I have a horse for that, and I think the fact that I rather enjoy Melissa counts as danger.
25-12-13 01:40:53: Ada: Probably slightly. Anyway, Urumil has things with boats on the go. His player's been doing life stuff this week, but is usually amply available.
25-12-13 01:41:27: Cham: Okay! Is there a sea actually explorable or is it theatre of the mind?
25-12-13 01:42:35: Ada: All very theatre of the mind. If you want to put in an action to look for stuff, go right ahead. The obvious comparator here (because it's where I pulled the 'cram everyone in one compact city' thing from) is Arx, if you ever came across it.
25-12-13 01:42:55: Cham: I have, yes!
25-12-13 01:43:42: Sabine: You can't keep me in these walls Ada!
25-12-13 01:44:02: Ada: Sabine's going to go and hang out in the one Red Waste room, I bet.
25-12-13 01:45:31: Sabine: Sabine-Unbound-By-Walls.
25-12-13 01:48:09: Ada: But yeah, there have been three events in the Expanse and one in the Red Waste, then offscreen actions have been overwhelmingly focused beyond the city.
25-12-13 01:48:35: Cham: Okay! How does character improvements work?
25-12-13 01:49:06: Ada: Just a once per chapter request -- the information's in bb 1/9, for now.
25-12-13 01:49:24: Cham: Okay! How long does a chapter generally last?
25-12-13 01:49:34: Ada: Aiming for 4-6 weeks.
25-12-13 01:50:35: Ada: I'll figure that out a bit better as we go. 4 weeks is probably too tight a timeline for a game in 2025/2026, honestly.
25-12-13 01:51:16: Cham: Depends on the avg # and consistency of players sided by RL unfolding/availability imo
25-12-13 01:51:46: Cham: More than 20 is a hassle, but smaller numbers get a small gathering turn up if ykwim :P
25-12-13 01:53:58: Ada: I had a theory that a game needed a certain critical mass to maintain grid activity that hasn't borne out in practice. Most players are still to my knowledge directly arranging scenes with others rather than getting then just by being on-grid. This may be just how games are these days, especially with Ares existing.
25-12-13 01:54:30: Cham: Idek what Ares s.
25-12-13 01:55:05: Sabine: They are all just avoiding me, Ada.
25-12-13 01:55:35: Ada: It's a popular MUSH platform that's sort of a hybrid between a MUSH and forum RP. You can set up scenes without ever being in a room with someone - a grid is largely an afterthought to most Ares games.
25-12-13 01:56:21: Ada: Sabine is not even that scary and judgmental in-character!
25-12-13 01:58:35: Sabine: I mean, she is, but that is besides the point. Unfortunetly for everyone tonight, I mistakenly had some milk product at dinner.
25-12-13 01:59:48: Sabine: Everyone is sort of saved by the fact that Sabine likes most of everyone, and they place well on the heirarchy.
25-12-13 02:00:28: Sabine: Because you took out the Thasen PCs
25-12-13 02:00:43: Cham: Description seems a bit haughty lol!
25-12-13 02:00:52: Ada: Hey, I technically turned them into NPCs for others to take out.
25-12-13 02:01:27: Ada: The conversation with the very first person to be interested in one convinced me they were a terrible idea as PCs.
25-12-13 02:01:56: Sabine: The flowchart is pretty easy though. Linder -> Commonwealth -> The rest of the Adanian houses -> Hadash -> Dyria -> Maggots -> The Dirt -> The Maggots in The Dirt -> Thasen
25-12-13 02:02:14: Ada: Sabine's description is that of an overworked 40-year-old. It seeks to simulate the average MU* player.
25-12-13 02:02:46: Cham: I got a Harry Potter esque vbe of that ghost girl in the bathroom almost lol.
25-12-13 02:02:47: Sabine: Sabine is easy.
25-12-13 02:03:17: Ada: I'm sort of fascinated by Hadash coming before Dyria in this flow.
25-12-13 02:03:24: Sabine: It is just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyU_1-Py0dA
25-12-13 02:03:24: Cham: Plus a John Stark mother esque hehh. And what! Aren't Hadash wealthy as heck?
25-12-13 02:03:36: Sabine: Hadash has a stronger military tradition, Ada.
25-12-13 02:03:49: Sabine: And Sabine has campaigned in the area.
25-12-13 02:04:02: Sabine: Specifically Min Nome.
25-12-13 02:04:04: Ada: It does, but its soldiers are all bottled up in Rannal's core lands.
25-12-13 02:04:43: Ada: I mean the other houses have some, but their tradition is one of having great big fortresses along the river and daring people to come at them.
25-12-13 02:04:47: Sabine: Yeah but Sabine has more direct experience with them, and they do /have/ a military tradition.
25-12-13 02:05:15: Sabine: Notice The Commonwealth beats out the rest of the Imperial Territories
25-12-13 02:05:27: Cham: Defense is the strongest offense. Control the board and they will lose more for daring
25-12-13 02:05:27: Ada: And Cham, yes. The Hadashi houses, apart from Phavah, have a lot of wealth.
25-12-13 02:05:51: Sabine: But yeah, it isn't that there is anything wrong with the Dyrians
25-12-13 02:06:14: Sabine: Sabine is just less sure of them than the Hadashi
25-12-13 02:06:39: Cham: I liked the ancient Egyptian twist on Hadashi.
25-12-13 02:06:47: Ada: The militia as a core element are probably not a comfortable one for an Adanan knight.
25-12-13 02:07:25: Ada: Hadash is a mashed-together Egypt/Phoenicia stuck into a more medieval setting.
25-12-13 02:07:45: Cham: I grew up in a diverse household. Catholic, Christian, Judaism, Hindu, Buddhism, Norse, wiccan, egyptian etc. Egptyian was one of my most fascinated.
25-12-13 02:09:18: Ada: There's not really any specific religious influence here apart from the Dyrian pantheon and Valon, though Valon was iterated on a bunch.
25-12-13 02:09:41: Ada: And the Dyrian one is only scantly documented because it's just an ancient Greek pantheon, no more or less.
25-12-13 02:10:23: Ada: And Valon didn't have religious influence -- rather he saw inception as essentially Sigmar from Warhammer.
25-12-13 02:10:43: Dietrich: :comes back
25-12-13 02:11:00: Ada: Dietrich! You should meet Cham. He boats.
25-12-13 02:11:07: Cham: I'm particularly fascinated with Babylonian/Sumerian pantheons myself.
25-12-13 02:11:18: Dietrich: Like as he walks?
25-12-13 02:11:44: Ada: Nah, he goes places on boats.
25-12-13 02:12:54: Cham: Quite successfully. He never did good at accepting impossibilities.
25-12-13 02:13:17: Dietrich: I have been RL betrayed. I got Cape Cod chips thinking they looked good. They are not
25-12-13 02:14:06: Cham: Maybe visit a Captain D's :P
25-12-13 02:14:13: Dietrich: Well Cham(p) where are you on the grid? I could swagger by.
25-12-13 02:14:31: Sabine: Try the chapel.
25-12-13 02:14:51: Dietrich: Why is everyone at this chapel? It sounds like lectures happen there.
25-12-13 02:15:01: Cham: I warn thee, I began today and I'm on a tablet ATM which cuts my typing speed by 2/3 easily heh, buuuut. Say where. I'll find it eventually
25-12-13 02:15:15: Ada: 'directions' probably helps with finding places.
25-12-13 02:15:37: Sabine: :gets the axe.
25-12-13 02:15:41: Dietrich: Cham is not on the +where, it's why I was asking. :)
25-12-13 02:16:11: Erika: No u @ dietrich.
25-12-13 02:16:20: Dietrich: UR FACE!
25-12-13 02:16:37: Erika: ; plays the reverse Uno card.
25-12-13 02:16:58: Dietrich: :lays down another reverse, thus canceling the reverse.
25-12-13 02:17:01: Sabine: :just hits them both with the axe.
25-12-13 02:17:13: Dietrich: Cham, Grand Park?
25-12-13 02:17:22: Dietrich: It's pretty neutral location
25-12-13 02:18:34: Cham: At the port.
25-12-13 02:18:36: Dietrich: I make no promises what comes out of Dietrich's mouth or how it is received IC
25-12-13 02:18:51: Dietrich: :>.>
25-12-13 02:19:29: Sabine: :puts Erika somewhere much more safe.
25-12-13 02:21:26: Dietrich: LOL.
25-12-13 02:21:41: Dietrich: Cham I've been talking to you like you are in the room. You are not.
25-12-13 02:30:17: Irreth: Super belatedly, but I'm down for catch-as-catch-can event stuff, Ada.
25-12-13 02:30:34: Dietrich: Down for a what?
25-12-13 02:31:11: Irreth: >> [Public] Ada: I've done to an extent mostly player-driven events so far. With a quietish weekend ahead, though I'm unlikely to schedule something at this stage, I have a question: are people interested in spontaneous me-driven events too? e.g. a few PCs just happen to be somewhere and a thing happens.
25-12-13 02:33:05: Dietrich: Oh. I'm down for all RP.
25-12-13 02:34:26: Ada: Actually there's one thing in Sanctuary I was going to do as a story update, but a live scene would be a good way to deliver it. I'll pop one up for tomorrow. No big deal if people don't make it.
25-12-13 02:35:27: Ada: lol that event numbering. I swear I'll fix that someday, but today is not that day.
25-12-13 02:36:02: Sabine: I thought it just grabbed random numbers
25-12-13 02:36:19: Ada: Nah, it's the script number in the DB, but lots of things are scripts.
25-12-13 02:36:43: Dietrich: :is a script.
25-12-13 02:38:36: Ada: There we go. Tomorrow, but three hours earlier than now.
25-12-13 02:45:08: Sabine: Woo
25-12-13 02:45:48: Sabine: Hmmm, that should be 7 eastern, can make that, yes-yes
25-12-13 02:46:11: Ada: It is. If you set your timezone (help timezone), it will automatically convert it.
25-12-13 02:49:31: Sabine: Oh yeah, but it converts it to military time so I have to do a lil math
25-12-13 02:51:24: Sabine: And well
25-12-13 02:51:30: Sabine: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/318/550/e2d.jpg
25-12-13 02:51:42: Ada: Hah.
25-12-13 04:20:51: Dietrich: Alright, I have been awake too long. I'm going to bed. See y'all tomorrow.
25-12-13 22:57:06: Melissa: Ada, is the event open to anyone?
25-12-13 23:02:12: Ada: Yup!
25-12-13 23:02:52: Sabine: I live.
25-12-13 23:03:19: Koline: :will be there, Ada!
25-12-14 02:30:11: Sabine: Melissa, talk me out of cheesecake.
25-12-14 02:32:34: Melissa: Is it bad cheesecake?
25-12-14 02:35:43: Sabine: No, I just already ate to much earlier.
25-12-14 02:42:21: Melissa: Take a bite and eat the rest for breakfast.
25-12-14 02:43:30: Sabine: This seems like a bad idea, but I suppose I am an adult and can have whatever I want for breakfast.
25-12-14 02:49:28: Melissa: You are an adult and its Sunday.
25-12-14 02:51:30: Sabine: :nods.
25-12-14 02:51:34: Sabine: This is true.
25-12-14 03:02:21: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-14 03:02:47: Guest1: Hello. Just having a look around.
25-12-14 03:02:49: Sabine: A guest!
25-12-14 03:06:46: Melissa: Let us know if you have any questions!
25-12-14 03:07:45: Sabine:
25-12-14 03:51:20: Sabine: No.
25-12-14 03:52:01: Melissa: Whisper subliminal messages and when he goes along with what we want just praise him for a great idea.
25-12-14 03:52:13: Sabine: He is just letting us know he has a nuke.
25-12-14 03:52:17: Sabine: Like Ghandi
25-12-14 03:57:59: Ada: For as long as he continues to insist on being high up, they would need to whisper loudly at him from ground level.
25-12-14 03:58:33: Melissa: Thats how you get nose bleeds and blood clots
25-12-14 03:58:52: Sabine: That is to avoid the blast of his sunfire bomb.
25-12-14 04:14:47: Ada: Just wait till Ghandi sails across the Sea of Pearls.
25-12-14 04:16:05: Sabine: I mean, could be worse.
25-12-14 04:16:30: Sabine: We could use the Vedanta over here if nothing else.
25-12-14 04:29:33: Ada: Get Udo into it.
25-12-14 04:32:01: Sabine: Don't like tempt me, seriously
25-12-14 04:32:22: Sabine: Non Dualism really doesn't fit the setting we have here.
25-12-14 04:40:06: Ada: I am a terrible person to get into philosophical discourse with because I know nothing. :D
25-12-14 04:42:02: Sabine: Then you are already ahead of the game.
25-12-14 23:28:42: Sabine: :sneezes
25-12-14 23:51:43: Ada: How's Sunday, Sabine?
25-12-14 23:52:03: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-14 23:52:39: Sabine: It goes, it goes. ^_^
25-12-14 23:56:09: Sabine: How is England?
25-12-14 23:56:25: Ada: Wet, I assume.
25-12-14 23:56:42: Sabine: :nods.
25-12-15 00:08:38: Sabine: Well I hope they are ok
25-12-15 00:10:07: Ada: The guest or England? I saw Jeremy Clarkson expanded his pub ban list, so who knows.
25-12-15 00:10:40: Ada: As for the guest, I recently checked IPs of all the very brief guest log-ins, and they're all different. It's slightly strange.
25-12-15 00:11:03: Sabine: England mostly, the guest is obv just intimidated.
25-12-15 01:19:14: Ada: Suppose I should note in the wake of the story update that the Purple Coast remains the only thing which is time-sensitive going into chapter 2. Other things will progress, obviously, but later.
25-12-15 01:19:49: Ada: Into chapter 3, even! And that will be a ways into January.
25-12-15 01:21:03: Sabine: A new year
25-12-15 01:22:40: Melissa: My birthday is in January!
25-12-15 01:24:30: Sabine: The Melissa Day
25-12-15 01:25:40: Melissa: I think it might be a crisis birthday, we'll see!
25-12-15 01:26:06: Sabine: How could you ever be a crisis, Melissa? You are perfect.
25-12-15 01:27:06: Melissa: I will no longer be in my 30s, which is basically dead so im pretty much dead.
25-12-15 01:27:20: Sabine: I have been dead for years
25-12-15 01:33:26: Sabine: Ada, tell me about Empire Cocaine
25-12-15 01:40:34: Ada: You don't get any. You're stuck with opium here.
25-12-15 01:40:57: Sabine: Melissa, I need to borrow you.
25-12-15 01:42:47: Melissa: To get you opium?
25-12-15 01:43:00: Sabine: I mean I have to snort it off of something.
25-12-15 01:43:13: Melissa: Valid
25-12-15 01:43:22: Sabine: We ain't savages.
25-12-15 04:06:56: Sabine: :flumps around.
25-12-15 04:29:45: Dietrich: Who is finally off work?
25-12-15 04:30:55: Sabine: I am waiting to go back into work. For there is only ever work, or waiting for work.
25-12-15 04:36:27: Ada: I'm off tomorrow, but not off off. Bit busy at work this week, then work requirements basically vanish till mid-January. I have a bunch of leave but am bad at taking it because the quiet spells in work are just so very quiet.
25-12-15 04:38:43: Dietrich: I got called in yesterday. I'm not off until Thursday.
25-12-15 04:40:38: Sabine: That is just leave but not leave, Ada
25-12-15 04:45:52: Ada: Yes. Especially when it's remote.
25-12-15 04:51:34: Sabine: Remote Adas for everyone
25-12-15 04:56:27: Melissa: I wanted to do crafting things but my crafting room has to be organized before I can mess it up and its taken me 6 hours to reorganize the entire room (I didnt need to go that far) and now im tired and dont want to craft.
25-12-15 04:57:24: Sabine: Such is the way of my life Melissa. You have learned well.
25-12-15 04:59:19: Dietrich: I dragged the tree from the attic (finally) and set it up and decorated at midnight last night.
25-12-15 04:59:29: Dietrich: I'm not waiting until the last minute or anything.
25-12-15 05:05:14: Melissa: My tree is up, but will remain naked. Its just a festive night light and thats fine.
25-12-15 05:08:16: Sabine: Melissa, you can't just have it be nude. Think of the children.
25-12-15 05:10:00: Melissa: All the better to have the birds, bees, and trees talk.
25-12-15 05:12:20: Dietrich: Mine just has lights on it right now.
25-12-15 05:14:37: Sabine: How scandelous
25-12-15 14:31:49: Bogdan: Happy Monday.
25-12-15 14:37:49: Ada: Hey, Bogdan! Hope it's a good Monday.
25-12-15 20:25:09: Sabine: Ada, we need to go to the chippy.
25-12-16 00:47:02: Sabine: Urumil.
25-12-16 00:47:22: Sabine: Umami.
25-12-16 00:49:31: Urumil: Hiya Sabine
25-12-16 01:12:51: Sabine: Hello Urumil
25-12-16 01:13:18: Sabine: Soon I will be free. But I want to stop for Indian on the way home. All will be ok in the world.
25-12-16 01:16:32: Urumil: Good luck on your expedition
25-12-16 01:22:55: Sabine: Ty ty
25-12-16 18:55:31: Sabine: :sneezes.
25-12-16 19:00:31: Sabine: Oh, it is just me n Ada.
25-12-16 19:03:31: Sabine: Or maybe just me. ;_;
25-12-16 19:04:25: Ada: It may just be me! I assume people are being Christmasy.
25-12-16 19:05:44: Sabine: Alas, I still have four working days before my two weeks.
25-12-16 19:05:55: Sabine: So you are stuck with work me.
25-12-16 19:13:33: Sabine: Random query. Can I request my chapter advance at any time, or should I wait for end of chapter?
25-12-16 19:15:40: Ada: You can do so whenever. A total of two people have requested them, and I genuinely think -- especially after feedback from one player who rostered that the system was too complex -- that if I was going to do the system again, I'd probably do utterly freeform or just like 'roll a d6 or something'.
25-12-16 19:16:24: Sabine: I mean I am the bad advice giver on that regards.
25-12-16 19:16:35: Sabine: As I would be fine with Amber.
25-12-16 19:17:18: Ada: That's probably not a bad shout.
25-12-16 19:17:47: Sabine: Yeah, but i have found in my time that a lot of people need dice. As like a touchstone.
25-12-16 19:18:48: Sabine: It was just luck of the draw that out of all the good players you could have gotten, you got stuck with my dedication.
25-12-16 19:19:21: Ada: Comparative ability seems okay too.
25-12-16 19:21:55: Ada: Really though, while this is as simple as tabletop systems get (personally I think Fate is more complex), I'm not too sure what people want, I think.
25-12-16 19:24:35: Ada: Mind you, a majority of the seventy-odd people who have picked up characters have either RPed once or not at all. This is a phenomenon on Ares too. They didn't actually get to the systems part.
25-12-16 19:35:17: Sabine: I am again bad advice giver, I have a good IQ when it comes to the classical meaning of 'ability to comprehend new concepts'.
25-12-16 19:35:35: Sabine: But I find the system to be rather easy. With two caveats.
25-12-16 19:36:17: Sabine: The first being that I do believe we may have jumped the gun a little unnoticed having things in a 'finalized but subject to adjustment' state before we wild wested a little.
25-12-16 19:36:49: Sabine: Two, Kudzu's player had a bit of a habit of talking over you, so I know a couple cases where the waters got muddled because of that.
25-12-16 19:38:45: Ada: Fair. And I should have turned him away day one because the guy was /weird/, in a bad way, but oh well.
25-12-16 19:39:12: Sabine: But I am again not the best example for any of this because I am likely one of the closest to you in terms of game theory when it comes to 'fuck it, we just tell stories and be respectful to others.'
25-12-16 19:39:38: Sabine: But I fully understand that many players need those hard mechanics to feel comfortable and give them a framework guidance.
25-12-16 19:40:49: Sabine: And in the end, nothing wrong with that either. But I think that is a bit of a stumbling block that will at some point, need a dressing.
25-12-16 19:42:30: Sabine: Also, there is the problem of me enjoying my own voice to much.
25-12-16 19:43:36: Ada: I could see a 'just tell stories' approach working, but it would need to be either invite-only or have some sort of conversation before people, if not pick up characters, then at least do things with them.
25-12-16 19:46:36: Sabine: That is an aspect of me. And it almost certainly would be rocky if it were implemented.
25-12-16 19:50:06: Sabine: We have enough problems with ones with rules.
25-12-16 19:51:33: Sabine: But that is why I am sort of reluctant to tell you what you should do in any sort of advice. I would be fine with it, but I am a particularly weird MUSH edge case and should not be considered in the statistics as anything but an anomaly.
25-12-16 19:55:18: Ada: Maybe, but I think the mainstream is now "likes the idea of writing; does not have time".
25-12-16 19:55:39: Sabine: There is a lot of that going on as well as we all get older.
25-12-16 19:56:28: Sabine: I mean I am certainly guilty of could be more aggressive in seeking and providing writing opportunities.
25-12-16 19:56:52: Sabine: But my social anxiety also tells me everyone here dislikes me and is just to polite to tell me to go away.
25-12-16 19:57:06: Ada: I originated from RPI MUDs and those are essentially gone entirely, with a few holdouts notorious for bad behaviour and almost cultish playerbases -- actually, this defines most of the genre -- or one which isn't but which requires players to have a phone-verified Discord account, and, lol.
25-12-16 19:59:02: Ada: Anyway, I can't say how one encourages people to go do some writing nowadays. I very much doubt anyone dislikes anyone though!
25-12-16 20:02:05: Sabine: I just plan on cornering people with a knife.
25-12-16 20:02:30: Sabine: And you got me beat, I come from the old chat games.
25-12-16 20:03:57: Ada: I gather Discord is where it's at nowadays.
25-12-16 20:04:24: Sabine: I played a MUD once back in like the late 90s, but i will tell you one story about it that encapsulates something that I am unsure of.
25-12-16 20:05:56: Sabine: There was a character there, a black robe wizard, for this was dragonlance.
25-12-16 20:06:47: Sabine: And his desc was "He is very tall and incredibly attractive. You can make up the rest as long as it does not contradict that."
25-12-16 20:07:20: Sabine: And it has been twenty five years, i have seen so many beautifully written descriptions. Forgotten entire characters I have played.
25-12-16 20:07:27: Sabine: But I remember that.
25-12-16 20:08:52: Ada: Hah. RPIs were nitpicky about descriptions. Virtually none of the ones here would fly -- too subjective, too given to a bit of narration. But that description sums up most other MUD RP, I'm pretty sure.
25-12-16 20:10:42: Ada: My time on RPIs was primarily 2008-2013. I continued with them after that but at generally lower activity levels, and most of the actual good stories from them derive from that early period.
25-12-16 20:10:54: Ada: If I was running a MUD according to their long-time standards, I would berate players on logging in for not being active enough and threaten to delete their characters if activity levels do not improve.
25-12-16 20:12:12: Sabine: The beatings will continue.
25-12-16 20:15:01: Ada: Sex pesting, too. I actually have the almost complete worldfiles for one Middle-earth based one around, which closed in 2011 -- a husk of it with an inexplicably different setting that was never finished and terrible staff was made in 2014. It's all written in C++ and I've a very very very much WIP project to convert it to Evennia, just because it felt worth preserving. Like 26,000 unique rooms, I think about 7,000 mobs, maybe 10,000 objects.
25-12-16 20:15:55: Ada: I managed to convert all the data to be Evennia-usable, but iterating over all the systems to actually do stuff with it is a lot.
25-12-16 20:29:22: Sabine: Ah, mobs.
25-12-16 20:29:46: Sabine: As for the rest. MUSHing will never die, because Shang will outlive us all.
25-12-16 20:30:25: Sabine: Not that I don't enjoy a bit of the smut writing as it were. Before I get accused of prudedom.
25-12-16 20:31:18: Sabine: But C++? I have never heard of anything being done outside of like python or lisp.
25-12-16 21:02:29: Ada: Yeah, most RPI MUDs stemmed from DikuMUD, which is I think C and C++. There is no chance whatsoever that I would try to do anything in C++, though, when there's absolutely no sane reason to unless as a learning experience.
25-12-16 21:03:30: Ada: Fantastic skill to have for someone working in industry, because good C++ programmers are quite rare, but essentially no utility for a hobbyist.
25-12-16 21:25:36: Sabine: That tracks.
25-12-16 21:27:11: Sabine: It does help explain some of the issues with RPI,it was tainted from the start
25-12-16 21:48:16: Sabine: Oh hey. Cham is here.
25-12-16 21:48:38: Cham: Hey hey! :D
25-12-16 21:51:17: Sabine: Welcome!
25-12-16 21:51:41: Cham: Thanks!
25-12-16 21:52:58: Sabine: ^_^
25-12-16 22:10:34: Cham: DC'd if anyone dm'd me!
25-12-16 22:19:31: Sabine: It is just me, and I am at work. ;_;
25-12-16 22:34:31: Cham: Dun dun duh!
25-12-17 02:29:19: Sabine: Made it
25-12-17 02:30:01: Erika: GOOD EVENING.
25-12-17 02:30:27: Erika: I just want to say, coming back to read the conversations between Ada and Sabine is a part of my daily routine.
25-12-17 02:31:24: Sabine: One day they will have enough of me.
25-12-17 02:31:47: Ada: You can tune in for more of my thoughts on the hobby at any time.
25-12-17 02:34:12: Sabine: :is just loud.
25-12-17 02:34:15: Erika: I like dice and systems for one specific reason, and it has actually nothing to do with me particularly needing it. My personal experience with cooperative writing with No Challenges is that it fosters the MCS individuals moreso than any other environment. The dice keep them humble. Until they start crafting emits to look like successful dice rolls. I've seen that a few times.
25-12-17 02:35:33: Erika: Your actions system, Ada, is a very neat tool that prevents that kind of thing in that particular section of the game.
25-12-17 02:35:59: Sabine: That is more an issue of wrong mindset. Which is the core behind my issues with a lot of the RPI stuff and well, 90% of MUSH/MUD problems
25-12-17 02:36:34: Ada: Conceptually, I'm mostly happy with actions. People have engaged with them a surprising amount. That part /clicked/, at least!
25-12-17 02:37:08: Ada: Honestly it's just a parallel request system in the end.
25-12-17 02:37:18: Erika: IT's a rather good functioning one.
25-12-17 02:38:07: Ada: I spent part of my evening mulling an experiment with a freeform game with people playing characters who may be opposed, but where writing a fun scene where one's character loses garners some sort of 'story points' or something that can be applied to staff-run narrative things.
25-12-17 02:38:45: Erika: You can scale it, and it solves an issue that tends to come with MUD/MUSH as a hobby, which tends to boil down to two things (I think): Find the people to play the game, then have those people find the time to sit down and play together. Actions allows asynchronous play while being impactful, which I Think is important.
25-12-17 02:39:40: Ada: People finding the time to play together has been a hurdle, I feel. I don't actually think Ares would have solved it, though.
25-12-17 02:40:57: Erika: There's something of a trick in that balancing act I imagine, Ada. How do you incentivize people losing. One game I played had an experience where everyone involved gained experience no matter the narrative outcome, so they could use it to improve their sheets. But it became more of a contest between whose sheet was better and people were more concerned with those technicalities to write the narrative. Whoever won the rolls won the narrative, but the problem with that became People Don't Like Losing.
25-12-17 02:41:55: Sabine: Counter question: Why has it become so permissible that the focus is hyper personal.
25-12-17 02:43:15: Sabine: Relinquish yourself of the great enemy named I.
25-12-17 02:43:31: Erika: I don't like ARES for a few reasons. It's allownace for asynchronous playing does not solve its issues, I don't think.
25-12-17 02:43:55: Erika: ARES? Ares? I think Ares. I don't know why I capitalized it.
25-12-17 02:47:38: Ada: Ares, yeah. Do you think the focus has become more personal?
25-12-17 02:47:44: Erika: I don't have an answer for you, Sabine, beyond: people are people. There's a famous saying that no plan survives contact with the enemy, and I Figure you can adjust that wording to represent anything. No game survives contact with the players. You have people who spend hundreds of millions only to have one random person sitting in their living room break the whole thing apart with an exploit, half the time by accident.
25-12-17 02:49:01: Erika: In what sense, Ada?
25-12-17 02:49:13: Erika: That people care more about themselves than the cooperative nature of the game, telilng a story, et cetera?
25-12-17 02:51:26: Sabine: The flaw with MUSHing, though it is hardly contained to that within the hobby, has in my view, the supreme focus on the self, yes. It is easier to do online, I suppose, and it has over our years, grown to be ingrained into the culture to the point where it is often not even noticed.
25-12-17 02:51:33: Sabine: Here, let me pose a question.
25-12-17 02:52:09: Sabine: Does Ada require a publically justifiable reason under standards of evidence, to ask me to leave the game.
25-12-17 02:52:32: Sabine: Or is me not fitting in with the 'table' reason enough?
25-12-17 02:54:13: Ada: Yeah, Erika, pretty much just wondering if that's Sabine's experience. I guess when I started making this, I had not been meaningfully involved in the hobby since 2023 or January 2024, when Arx closed, beyond a /terrible/ experience revisiting RPIs, and some inconsequential attempts at Ares games.
25-12-17 02:56:33: Sabine: Oh, this is a long time of observation, not anything new. I will tell you a story on the path I walk in a lil.
25-12-17 02:57:33: Ada: I've helped people with writing things but not played things much, so I guess that counts as some involvement.
25-12-17 02:57:53: Erika: Ada, as the runner of the game, can ask you to leave at any time. Does she need a reason? No. She set the game up, she runs the game, she can do with it as she likes. There's legal precedence that a business owner can ask you to leave their business and refuse you service purely out of choice. Is it ethical? It's not unethical. Is it moral? Yes/no. Factually, Ada can pull the plug on anyone at any time, whether they like it or not. That's just reality. But every decision has consequences. Maybe some people leave because Ada asked someone to leave without "a reason". Maybe some people leave because Ada doesn't ask someone to leave. It's a mess, I think. But if the situation specifically is, "This person does not fit at the table," then, yes, I think that's enough reason to ask someone to leave.
25-12-17 02:58:35: Sabine: With the normal caveat that I am oft a statistical outlier. My religious tenents are non western, and while we have a variety of people of differing faiths and what not, the culture almost all of us was raised in is dominated by the thought of Abrahamic religions. I am also, according to Thenomain, one of the most FYID people he has ever met.
25-12-17 02:59:09: Ada: I've tried to encourage people I knew who ran games in the past to remove players for no more reason than that there were people taking up as much time as twenty others combined and giving literally nothing back.
25-12-17 02:59:27: Sabine: :points to Erika. "And yet we have had /several/ successive forums dedicated to the wrongs and evils of GMs doing stuff like that."
25-12-17 02:59:50: Erika: That's all noise.
25-12-17 02:59:52: Erika: It means nothing.
25-12-17 03:00:06: Sabine: Means? Yes. Effects the culture? Yes.
25-12-17 03:00:08: Erika: The only meaningful impact it will have is on the game's player count, if anything.
25-12-17 03:00:32: Erika: Which, arguably, is a pretty meaningful impact.
25-12-17 03:00:38: Melissa: I have missed something.
25-12-17 03:00:55: Erika: But forums are often a vocal minority sort of place, not a silent majority.
25-12-17 03:01:08: Erika: How many players in the hobby, versus how many visit that exact forum? Etc.
25-12-17 03:01:10: Sabine: While I do believe the problem is worse online, as well there is that bit where we don't have to face each other as it were. The biggest issue I have seen is the hobby's focus being for many, primarily a source of ego wish fulfilment.
25-12-17 03:01:37: Sabine: /I/ must be the best. /I/ must be in charge. /I/ must show how I am the smartest person in the room.
25-12-17 03:01:58: Sabine: The vast majority of MUSH issues root in that mindset.
25-12-17 03:02:12: Ada: The player count is following pretty much the exact same cycle as every other game. Loads of people pop up, and most of them depart without actually doing anything on the game, and it stabilises after some weeks. The trick for me now is to figure how to get the active people (of whom I would still count 30-odd, even if they're not online all at once) opportunities to interact.
25-12-17 03:02:52: Sabine: I lost (And indeed, how /can/ you win in this game or any other like it), and it can't be my fault, as my ego says I am a special genius, ergo it must be people cheating, and Ada allowing it.
25-12-17 03:03:03: Sabine: And that is how you get like, Brand Mu Day.
25-12-17 03:03:07: Erika: You reaching out and pointing me in a couple of directions was very beneficial /for me/. The problem is that each player will be a little different I think.
25-12-17 03:03:36: Sieglinde: From my LARP career til now, my RP motto has always been 'I love consequences'
25-12-17 03:03:54: Sabine: But I promised a story, of my jokingly called enlightenment, and Melissa is here, so I feel like I need to keep talking in the hopes that Senpai will notice me.
25-12-17 03:04:03: Erika: At some point it becomes a player-side thing, Ada. You can surround them with a moat, but they have to drink from it themselves.
25-12-17 03:04:16: Ada: I have a note on the site about stakes. The stakes are the world itself. The recurring question characters may have to grapple with in the game will be about what they value. There aren't right answers.
25-12-17 03:04:28: Melissa: :blows Sabine a kiss!
25-12-17 03:06:03: Melissa: I am the only one I know who has positive outcomes playing Fiasco Sabine, I always win, I cant help it!
25-12-17 03:06:33: Sabine: So, for this little trip of me enjoying my own voice to much. I want you all to imagine you are idling on your MUSH one day, like 11pm at night, nothing going on, just chilling and playing a game with the MUSH in the background. And your potato flashes, so you look over and you see a job update. And you are going 'Huh, I don't think I have anything actively in motion? What is up?' So you check your jobs.
25-12-17 03:06:50: Sabine: And it is this.
25-12-17 03:06:53: Sabine: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1261581965061001216/1315782775063974049/Screenshot_20241209_155043_Mukluk.jpg?ex=694317b3&is=6941c633&hm=8612a79f3af31c3147dbe9ba0021b605c0dbff83c5d46d12dc649cbe36c6757d&=&format=webp&width=396&height=880
25-12-17 03:07:24: Sabine: Realize that I am the Bernadette in question (And those that know of me may now proceed to hiss and make the sign of the cross or what not)
25-12-17 03:09:17: Sieglinde: good ol wod
25-12-17 03:09:33: Sabine: But I am sitting there, just looking at it. And it is like, we enter a game, and there is an objective to this game. To collaboratively, and as players not necissarily PCs, cooperatively. Tell a story. Rather than focus on this objective you decide that what you want is some other objective, ego, to be important, to prove yourself smarter than other players, or some other objective that is outside of the game. And well this is meaningless, impossible, because those are things that cannot really be achieved within the game. There is no support to really do any of that.
25-12-17 03:09:58: Sabine: So you fail. And you get frustrated. And you likely lose your character.
25-12-17 03:10:12: Sabine: And then you... make another character. And you do it all over again.
25-12-17 03:10:28: Sabine: And I sat there, and I stared, and I realized.
25-12-17 03:10:36: Sabine: We independantly invented Samsara.
25-12-17 03:10:53: Sabine: We wholesale came up with the wheel of suffering.
25-12-17 03:11:39: Sabine: And of all the things I expected to see in my time playing these games. The justification of the teachings of a man under a tree two and a half thousand years ago /was not one/.
25-12-17 03:12:02: Sabine: But anyways, yeah, that is the problem with MUSHing.
25-12-17 03:13:11: Sabine: The assigning of very real, and very emotional, self worth. To what is, something made for entertainment.
25-12-17 03:13:16: Ada: I certainly don't remember with any fondness, for example, time spent grinding up a character's skills or whatever on MUDs back in the day. I /do/ remember the stories though.
25-12-17 03:14:11: Ada: Melissa, I had to look up Fiasco, and this bit on Wikipedia tickled me. It is billed as "A game of powerful ambition and poor impulse control"
25-12-17 03:14:54: Sabine: But anyways, that is the story of how I came to a personal breakthrough in mindset due to someone accidentally adding me to the +req to PVP my char. Back to your normal programming.
25-12-17 03:15:47: Erika: I wish there was that experience, though, Ada. Joy in the meat of it, I mean. As an MMO fan, getting to the end is one of the parts I like, mostly because I play with others and not solo. So there are the fun stories there. But I can see why that would be so difficult an experience to create on a MUD. Lightning in a bottle, if you could.
25-12-17 03:17:17: Sabine: Also, we have Melissa /and/ Sieg, yay!
25-12-17 03:17:21: Ada: It was caught, now and then. My tolerance for shenanigans fell away a lot over time though.
25-12-17 03:17:59: Ada: I don't like WoD as a setting and have only ventured towards it out of some vague hope of seeing /a/ story.
25-12-17 03:19:02: Erika: Given the resources (it's always a hypothetical, because who ever really has them?), would you try to create that kind of experience? One that could reliably make the journey being the point of the journey fun? Or do you feel it's just old hat, and there's some secret recipe you're experimenting for to get A Fun Experience with some people to enjoy it?
25-12-17 03:20:46: Ada: Yeah, if I resume the project of reassembling the old Shadows of Isildur worldfiles, I will 100% open it if I think I can make something fun and not grindy.
25-12-17 03:24:30: Ada: Or I guess not reassembling the worldfiles, because that's /done/, but rather working on all the other game architecture around them. And, you know, maybe my approach is flawed, doing a 1:1 conversion of the old RPI Engine to Evennia, and I should just avail of the tens of thousands of descriptions and use the numbers as a guideline.
25-12-17 03:24:36: Sieglinde: I -like- WoD as a setting and a game, but at this point in my life, taking it beyond a normal table is not something that would be fun.
25-12-17 03:29:34: Ada: I'm not sure that people I've known who have played WoD games have ever really had much fun with them.
25-12-17 03:29:57: Ada: It's an endless pursuit of something that's never going to be attainable.
25-12-17 03:31:10: Sabine: See previous convo.
25-12-17 03:31:25: Sabine: I need to be the Prince. I need to be alpha. Yada yada.
25-12-17 03:32:32: Sabine: Meanwhile, I just hold out for meeting Melissa.
25-12-17 03:35:17: Sieglinde: There's really three types of WoD MU* players, with some crossover. The people who want to beat the other players, the plot chasers, and the FILTHY FORNICATORS
25-12-17 03:36:05: Sabine: I mean I can't argue.
25-12-17 03:37:02: Ada: I'm happy to have types 2 and 3 here -- admittedly more type 2 -- and have nothing to offer to type 1.
25-12-17 03:37:53: Sabine: Oh no, Ada has released the fornicaters.
25-12-17 03:42:07: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-17 03:45:19: Ada: Okay I'm genuinely fascinated at the guest pattern. They aren't the same people.
25-12-17 03:47:43: Erika: Do they enter any commands? Or they just connect and then leave once someone says 'hello'?
25-12-17 03:48:59: Sabine: It is a strange thing.
25-12-17 03:51:07: Ada: As best I can tell, they aren't doing much and then bouncing the moment anyone says hi.
25-12-17 03:51:45: Ada: I mean within seconds. They're really consistent about it.
25-12-17 03:52:27: Ada: That guest came on at 41:03 past the hour. I said hello at 43:07. They logged out at 43:10.
25-12-17 03:55:07: Penelope: Maybe monitoring activity
25-12-17 03:55:47: Ada: Maybe!
25-12-17 04:13:12: Sabine: Maybe they are just really shy.
25-12-17 04:13:52: Penelope: It sounds to me like someone watching a game to see if it's still "alive". Why? Unsure. Some do it out of spite. Some do it to be curious. Some just like to stick their noses into everything.
25-12-17 19:43:03: Bernadine: :waves in.
25-12-17 19:48:04: Ada: Hey!
25-12-17 19:48:50: Bernadine: How goes?
25-12-17 19:50:51: Ada: I'm doing well! Finish up work tomorrow for a couple of weeks. :D
25-12-17 19:51:02: Ada: Off to sort out some dinner just now -- back in a while.
25-12-17 19:53:30: Bernadine: Nice! Enjoy your dinner and your work break!
25-12-17 20:39:34: Urumil: Good evening
25-12-17 20:41:04: Bernadine: Hi hi
25-12-17 20:46:18: Ada: Hey, Urumil.
25-12-17 20:50:47: Urumil: hey hey
25-12-18 02:18:11: Sabine: I made it.
25-12-18 18:19:34: Urumil: evening
25-12-18 18:23:20: Ada: Hey, Urumil!
25-12-18 22:17:29: Sabine: Hello.
25-12-18 22:50:15: Sabine: Oh hey, a guest.
25-12-18 22:56:31: Melissa: Hello!
25-12-18 22:56:45: Guest1: hello!
25-12-18 22:56:50: Sabine: Hello.
25-12-18 22:57:52: Guest1: a friend and I are in mush withdrawals and this seems like a pretty nice place to plant our roots, so we're just getting ourselves up to speed!
25-12-18 22:58:27: Sabine: Well we are very early on, though a bit slow atm.
25-12-18 22:58:36: Sabine: We will have to wake up the Ada.
25-12-18 22:59:24: Guest1: sounds like a good time to join - I usually find myself in places in the last chapter of their stories pfft
25-12-18 23:00:44: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-18 23:01:15: Guest1: hello Ada!
25-12-18 23:02:12: Ada: If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
25-12-18 23:02:44: Guest1: so far so good, just browsing the site and debating character choices for now
25-12-18 23:03:54: Sabine: There are many good ones
25-12-18 23:04:24: Guest1: tell me about it. I felt accomplished after narrowing it down to five
25-12-18 23:04:34: Ada: I've not run an idle sweep, but Adelinde, Janina, Elektra, Raimund, Thorsten, Demetrios, Bartos, Natalia, Sonia, Petra and Franziska would all technically be available.
25-12-18 23:05:14: Guest2: hello o/
25-12-18 23:05:16: Guest1: oooo more choices!
25-12-18 23:05:20: Ada: Hey, guest!
25-12-18 23:08:06: Guest2: Hello. :) Just having a look around initially - I used to play Arx back in the day, so stumbling over Empire while looking for somewhere to RP was a really nice surprise
25-12-18 23:10:02: Sabine: Hello, we have the much cooler A name.
25-12-18 23:11:00: Guest2: ... sAnctuary?
25-12-18 23:11:06: Ada: Also a markedly different focus as far as the stories I like go, for better or for worse -- more 'world' level stuff, much less individual secrets and so on.
25-12-18 23:12:02: Sabine: I mean, Ada.
25-12-18 23:12:25: Sabine: Three letters but it has /two/ letter a.
25-12-18 23:13:05: Guest2: Having read through the website a bit, for the better, I think. I enjoyed Arx for what it was but taking part in the world itself often felt a bit impenetrable
25-12-18 23:14:00: Guest2: but yes, not meaning to draw unwanted comparisons!
25-12-18 23:14:14: Sabine: I always feel so left behind since I was only on Arx for like six months in like 2019 just being a goof.
25-12-18 23:14:30: Ada: Nothing wrong with comparing things. It was a good game!
25-12-18 23:14:47: Ada: Think the hobby's changed quite a bit since Arx's heyday though.
25-12-18 23:16:18: Guest2: how so, out of curiosity? I've been out of MUSHes since... Honestly probably around 2019-2020 as well.
25-12-18 23:16:53: Guest1: awh would've missed you Sabine! Joined a little later myself, but stayed about just as long. It was fun, but at its end
25-12-18 23:18:11: Sabine: It was a bit impenetrable by the time I picked up Rodica so it was like, really hard to get things going. But yet, here we are.
25-12-18 23:21:09: Ada: There just aren't many traditional MUSHes left. Some Ares games.
25-12-18 23:22:06: Ada: Of those which are still going, the ones to come to mind are either World of Darkness games or one Star Wars game.
25-12-18 23:22:31: Guest1: I did look at some Ares games but man.. I love the grid
25-12-18 23:22:50: Guest2: Ah, I see. Yeah, if anything, that's why I was so pleasantly surprised to come across your project here. How long has Empire been going?
25-12-18 23:22:58: Sabine: And one Shadowrun game from 2001, Ada
25-12-18 23:24:31: Ada: Opened on 31 October, so not very long at all.
25-12-18 23:25:08: Guest2: Oh wow. So very new!
25-12-18 23:26:56: Guest2: Do you mind if I ask what activity's like? Number of concurrent players etc? I'm interested in joining either way (eyeing a few characters), I'm just wondering if there are best days or times to be online.
25-12-18 23:28:37: Sabine: Slow side of erratic currently.
25-12-18 23:29:04: Ada: It's been a quiet week, this week, but usually would see 10-15 online. I'm not sure where things are going to stabilise. Getting scenes is very much going to be a case of arranging them rather than getting them spontaneously.
25-12-18 23:30:00: Guest2: Fair enough!
25-12-18 23:31:31: Sabine: One day I will scene with Melissa. One day.
25-12-19 00:00:12: Ada: Belatedly, welcome, Kalia!
25-12-19 00:00:32: Kalia: Hello again! (1 here)
25-12-19 00:01:02: Ada: You might find the directions command helpful for things like getting to the Heshbeh estate. Heshbeh's been pretty quiet, and there's just one happening up (see org house heshbeh), but I can easily provide further hooks.
25-12-19 00:02:28: Kalia: Here I was worried for a second I may be too late for the Heshbeh hook :p I already showed interest, and I plan to have a walk around once Im a bit more familiar with the various menus and commands
25-12-19 00:09:12: Ada: I can very easily write more. :D
25-12-19 00:09:41: Ada: Kothar's on the roster, but if in need of him, I can run him as an NPC.
25-12-19 00:10:26: Kalia: I meeeean.. I definitely wont say no. Since the House is rather quiet, it could be fun to have some history for any others who join to look up/follow up on/etc
25-12-19 00:10:52: Sabine: :will say no tho, is very mean.
25-12-19 00:11:23: Kalia: just makes it extra fun!
25-12-19 00:22:22: Ada: I'll whip up something.
25-12-19 00:23:02: Kalia: tyt! I can easily entertain myself in the meantime
25-12-19 00:30:40: Melissa: One day Sabine!
25-12-19 00:51:52: Dietrich: I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus
25-12-19 00:52:17: Kalia: my condolences
25-12-19 00:52:59: Dietrich: It was pretty bad. Yet, I bet I get more than coal this year.
25-12-19 00:57:17: Sabine: :sneaks out to leave work early.
25-12-19 01:01:42: Dietrich: It's not sneaking if you are announcing.
25-12-19 01:01:49: Dietrich: :sees the 'sneak' off.
25-12-19 01:01:59: Dietrich: Welcome Paltor!
25-12-19 01:02:05: Paltor: o/
25-12-19 01:02:08: Paltor: hello!
25-12-19 01:02:18: Kalia: Hello! o7
25-12-19 01:04:24: Ada: Welcome! Another chronically overworked 40-something-year-old!
25-12-19 01:04:51: Melissa: I too left work 10 minutes early today. It was snowing.
25-12-19 01:04:59: Kalia: youd think roleplay would be to escape such a life
25-12-19 01:05:21: Paltor: Yeah, it was a toss-up between Paltor and a few other characters, but something about an overworked underappreciated middle manager with a very frustrating boss resonated
25-12-19 01:06:34: Paltor: (I realise that his character profile actually says very little of that. I may, er, may be projecting a bit)
25-12-19 01:06:59: Ada: Misic's most recent affectation (see story 7) is mostly harmless.
25-12-19 01:07:19: Dietrich: ICly? I avoid work.
25-12-19 01:07:25: Dietrich: I am allergic.
25-12-19 01:08:20: Melissa: Have we ever had a Rannal PC?
25-12-19 01:08:31: Dietrich: :is Rannal
25-12-19 01:08:32: Ada: Not yet!
25-12-19 01:08:34: Melissa: (Besides now)
25-12-19 01:09:11: Dietrich: :is also going to play an insane King.
25-12-19 01:09:13: Melissa: Paltor is officially the most liked and only played Rannal now!
25-12-19 01:09:19: Dietrich: :demands cats.
25-12-19 01:09:30: Paltor: Oh, is Misic an NPC? He's shown as an active character
25-12-19 01:10:06: Ada: Yup, I just whimsically made an actual character for him, not that the sheet is filled out.
25-12-19 01:10:17: Paltor: Ah, gotcha
25-12-19 01:10:37: Melissa: Dietrich we shall go have parties in a cat café.
25-12-19 01:11:02: Dietrich: :went to a RL cat cafe today.
25-12-19 01:11:14: Dietrich: :was advised could not have all the cats.
25-12-19 01:11:36: Kalia: id become a criminal if I went to one, Id take them all home
25-12-19 01:12:02: Dietrich: There was a kitten that wouldn't stop trying to attack everything that moved and it was adorable.
25-12-19 01:12:07: Paltor: I can only assume that you're frisked for stowaways on your way out
25-12-19 01:12:14: Dietrich: I also crawled under a table to pet another cat.
25-12-19 01:12:26: Kalia: sounds heavenly
25-12-19 01:12:28: Ada: Dietrich, that sounds almost as chaotic as your character is.
25-12-19 01:12:48: Dietrich: And, there was a free coffee included in the 'play fee'.
25-12-19 01:12:57: Dietrich: I mean, there is a reason I play chaotic so well.
25-12-19 01:14:00: Ada: This explains the standing around for the cat-like monster, too.
25-12-19 01:14:09: Melissa: There is a capybara café that I never went to in Florida that I would demand squatters rights in and never leave.
25-12-19 01:14:24: Dietrich: Look. I wanted to take the kitty home.
25-12-19 01:15:30: Ada: Yes, to the point you were looking for one to take home from the start. :D
25-12-19 01:16:24: Dietrich: Wait. Wasn't everyone?
25-12-19 01:17:13: Dietrich: To be fair, at the last part, I lit one on fire when it seemed not friendly.
25-12-19 01:18:25: Ada: I think most people were content with their regular animal choices.
25-12-19 01:19:19: Dietrich: Well it's not my fault they didn't think of it.
25-12-19 01:19:32: Dietrich: So Ada, hear me out... dragon. I should get a dragon.
25-12-19 01:22:19: Ada: I keep kicking the bestiary down the road but it doesn't have dragons in.
25-12-19 01:22:58: Dietrich: Well... what does it have?
25-12-19 01:23:40: Ada: Keeping on message for the game's underlying inspirations, if it's in Dragon Age or Warhammer, it /might/ be here.
25-12-19 01:24:05: Dietrich: Sooooo can I have a displacer kitten and then a pet dragon?
25-12-19 01:24:21: Ada: No but that's a great idea for a monster.
25-12-19 01:24:42: Dietrich: You say monster, I say future pet
25-12-19 01:25:01: Dietrich: :pulls out his old monster manual.
25-12-19 01:25:18: Dietrich: :slaps: Pets To Acquire on it.
25-12-19 01:25:59: Melissa: :sprits Dietrich with the water bottle.
25-12-19 01:29:36: Dietrich: :hisses and then tosses back his locks like a bad romance book promo.
25-12-19 01:33:33: Melissa: today feels like it should be Friday.
25-12-19 01:33:45: Paltor: it is here!
25-12-19 01:34:02: Ada: It is here, technically, and I'm off now anyway.
25-12-19 01:34:16: Ada: You should move to futureland, Melissa.
25-12-19 01:35:02: Melissa: I should! Instead I ended up and hour later than before when I moved. I moved the wrong direction!
25-12-19 01:37:37: Dietrich: Let's all move to futureland.
25-12-19 01:39:21: Melissa: I think I was waiting on action NPCs
25-12-19 01:39:31: Ada: Oh, yes. Taras!
25-12-19 01:39:57: Paltor: mind if I ask a setting question before you head off, Ada?
25-12-19 01:40:01: Paltor: or of anyone really
25-12-19 01:40:06: Ada: Sure, go for it.
25-12-19 01:40:38: Ada: Also I was mulling elegant code solutions for action NPCs then realised there's a super-duper easy option, which is to just add a new flag to characters that says they're an NPC, and just make a character. :D
25-12-19 01:41:28: Paltor: what's the tech level or real-world analogue of the setting? Are we somewhere in the late Roman empire, dark ages, high medieval period, etc - or is it a DnD/Dragon Age-style mix of vibes?
25-12-19 01:41:43: Ada: Technology level is late 14th century Europe.
25-12-19 01:41:55: Paltor: perfect, thanks. :)
25-12-19 01:42:32: Ada: Fashion, art and music though can be whatever provided they would fit in either the real world up to the early 19th century or wouldn't look too weird in the Sword Coast.
25-12-19 01:43:12: Paltor: Gotcha, makes sense.
25-12-19 01:44:15: Paltor: Right - I'm off for the night, it's nearly 2am here. Will probably be on tomorrow to remind myself how to pilot Evennia, find my feet and maybe even do a little bit of RPing.
25-12-19 01:44:24: Paltor: Thanks for the warm welcome all!
25-12-19 01:44:38: Ada: Base Evennia is kind of barebones, so you'll have to deal with the idiosyncracies of my code, mostly.
25-12-19 01:44:59: Ada: Great platform to build off though, to be clear!
25-12-19 01:45:34: Ada: Anyway, good night!
25-12-19 01:45:59: Melissa: Night Paltor!
25-12-19 01:47:10: Kalia: I shall follow suit, but Ill almost certainly be back tomorrow :> take care, all!
25-12-19 01:47:20: Ada: Good night!
25-12-19 01:47:32: Melissa: See you tomorrow Kalia!
25-12-19 01:51:05: Ada: There we go!
25-12-19 01:59:17: Melissa: I'm making a spelunker since no one wants to explore my caves.
25-12-19 02:01:02: Sabine: ...
25-12-19 02:01:11: Sabine: :raises up a finger.
25-12-19 02:01:46: Sabine: I am standing right here Melissa.
25-12-19 02:03:23: Melissa: I can't make someone go down there, Sabine. Or maybe I can now!
25-12-19 02:04:46: Sabine: Let me go get my snorkle.
25-12-19 02:05:30: Dietrich: :reads and opens his mouth.
25-12-19 02:06:25: Dietrich: I've always had a deep appreciation of caves.
25-12-19 02:08:04: Melissa: You both can now think about your actions now that I have to make an NPC to do it for me.
25-12-19 02:08:23: Sabine: :snerks
25-12-19 02:09:03: Sabine: You won't even go IC with me Melissa. =^P
25-12-19 02:10:53: Ada: The kernel of the idea comes from Bernd, but thinking further on it, I liked it, since it lends potentially substantial value to PCs with higher social stats to 'activate' an NPC to go help on their behalf.
25-12-19 02:11:47: Ada: Still going to be rolling like an 8/6/6, so people might want to stack in other assets in their actions.
25-12-19 02:12:26: Melissa: What was that game that let you rent out a party to play with? That game let me play without people and was great. Also WoW now let's you play in dungeons with NPC parties so that's fun for those of us who don't like people or have friends.
25-12-19 02:12:47: Melissa: I know Sabine! I get home and I'm old.
25-12-19 02:12:51: Ada: Guild Wars did that as a core thing.
25-12-19 02:13:45: Melissa: Thats the game I played very briefly.
25-12-19 02:15:19: Dietrich: Melissa, you know that I would make the sacrifice to make sure that caves were explored. I've been working on holding my breath. I've been doing my stretches.
25-12-19 02:16:58: Melissa: Ada said there were /things/ under there.
25-12-19 02:17:38: Sabine: Same Melissa, same. But one day
25-12-19 02:17:55: Dietrich: :nods solemnly. "I have heard that. Let me sho--tell you what I know"
25-12-19 02:21:08: Melissa: One of my dogs is trying to break down my door. The cat stuff is in here and we just out one of those door props on the door to let the cats in and the dogs out and the dogs are very annoyed.
25-12-19 02:22:29: Sabine: Pooe doggos
25-12-19 02:22:52: Melissa: They eat more cat food than the cats do!
25-12-19 02:23:36: Sabine: They are starving!
25-12-19 02:24:30: Melissa: The vet says otherwise and would like us to try starving them!
25-12-19 02:24:56: Sabine: Not my poor innocent doogos. ;_;
25-12-19 02:26:30: Dietrich: You can't starve them
25-12-19 02:33:17: Melissa: I tried to pick my dog up not that long ago and thought it was insane I couldn't pick the 45 pound dog up. it's because she is 87 pounds now!
25-12-19 02:33:22: Melissa: She is a log.
25-12-19 02:37:38: Ada: Gosh, that's a big dog.
25-12-19 02:38:53: Melissa: She now has diet food to try to make it better.
25-12-19 02:41:26: Dietrich: She's just big boned
25-12-19 02:43:22: Melissa: It isn't even her that's angry about the door, it's the other large dog we have (he is a black lab and needs to be in everyone's business and the cat food)
25-12-19 02:47:13: Sabine: My starving babies.
25-12-19 02:49:35: Melissa: You sound like my sister, my dogs can do no wrong
25-12-19 02:50:21: Sabine: :nods
25-12-19 19:22:49: Ada: Hope everyone's having a good Friday!
25-12-19 19:36:24: Kalia: You too, Ada!
25-12-20 01:53:24: Dietrich: Then I was like, well yeah.. it quacks me up
25-12-20 02:57:52: Sabine: :shows up.
25-12-20 16:53:10: Melissa: Morning!
25-12-20 17:11:01: Ada: What thoroughly manky weather. Got the remainder of my Christmas shopping done though!
25-12-20 17:13:18: Melissa: Yay for that!
25-12-20 17:26:06: Ada: Anyway, I'm off work for two weeks straight, and apart from a few family commitments, it's all free time. :)
25-12-20 19:20:44: Sabine: :shows up for a bit.
25-12-20 20:16:13: Paltor: evening all
25-12-20 20:16:23: Kalia: o/
25-12-20 20:16:35: Paltor: quick reminder, as I'm apparently being silly and can't find it at a glance - what year is it IC?
25-12-20 20:16:56: Kalia: do the time command!
25-12-20 20:17:11: Paltor: I'm trawling the website for what of Misic's, er, eccentricities are fresh wounds and what are old grudges etc
25-12-20 20:17:27: Paltor: ...Obvious in hindsight. Thanks Kalia o7
25-12-20 20:17:27: Sabine: He recently got some sweet stilts
25-12-20 20:20:41: Kalia: I too have a silly question. How do you do a newline in descriptions? Say, for notes, or item descriptions?
25-12-20 20:23:38: Ada: Do % r, with no space in between, or | /, again no space.
25-12-20 20:23:54: Kalia: thanks Ada!
25-12-20 20:29:06: Kalia: related - can I edit a crafted item, or will I need to make a new one (and delete the old) to update its description/name?
25-12-20 20:31:34: Ada: You'd have to destroy it. The helpfile is wrong on one thing though - you can actually make up to 30 per day.
25-12-20 20:31:56: Kalia: Oh, that does make it a little less stressful trying to get it right the first time around xD
25-12-20 21:05:13: Sabine: Ada it is to cold out.
25-12-20 21:05:20: Sabine: Please make it warmer
25-12-21 02:01:19: Ada: Sabine, try waiting a few months.
25-12-21 02:12:59: Sabine: I already turned it off then on again. ;_;
25-12-21 10:33:23: Urumil: :mumbles about xmas.
25-12-21 10:33:29: Urumil: :runs off to deal with rl
25-12-22 01:36:14: Sabine: :sneezes
25-12-22 02:12:37: Ada: What's up, Sabine?
25-12-22 02:22:46: Sabine: Existance
25-12-22 02:49:06: Ada: Not to be sneezed at. After much delay about getting to them, I finally painted the Jedi from the Shatterpoint core set. Ahsoka is still a WIP. Anakin was very straightforward.
25-12-22 02:58:24: Sabine: Don't remind me I have two boxes of Mandos to do.
25-12-22 03:00:21: Paltor: Still plenty of time to get stuff done before the end of the year :P
25-12-22 03:00:45: Ada: Sabine, you still have two boxes of Mandalorians to do.
25-12-22 03:01:25: Ada: In anticipation of actually having everything done, I picked up Hera, Sabine and Chopper yesterday.
25-12-22 03:02:32: Ada: Speaking of Chopper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRzs09QEuc
25-12-22 03:12:36: Sabine: That is a decent box.
25-12-22 03:13:07: Sabine: I have The armorer, Paz, Din and some rando mandos.
25-12-22 03:13:14: Sabine: And an IG and all that
25-12-22 03:16:38: Ada: I almost went for the one box with the bounty hunters, including the IG.
25-12-22 03:17:32: Ada: Once I get through this lot though, going to do the other half of the Rebels crew first, and then something with stormtroopers.
25-12-22 03:22:01: Ada: Which, looking at it, means Vader, because there's only one box with regular stormtroopers. :D
25-12-22 03:24:06: Sabine: Oh regular, yeah.
25-12-22 03:24:28: Sabine: Just Vader. Snowtroopers with Veers and Shoretroopers with THE AMAZING KRENNEC
25-12-22 03:24:44: Sabine: We should be getting zombie stormtroopers this year tho.
25-12-22 03:26:08: Ada: Considering how many different clones they have, it's weird that they just went 'nah' on stormtroopers.
25-12-22 03:26:13: Ada: Veers and co are cool.
25-12-22 03:26:38: Ada: I appreciate that they just leaned into the Saturday morning cartoon feel and put Veers in as a playable character.
25-12-22 03:26:40: Sabine: There legit hasn't been a lot of Empire era boxes.
25-12-22 03:26:51: Sabine: Well outside of some of the newer material.
25-12-22 03:27:04: Sabine: There just isn't to much to really draw from from the OT.
25-12-22 03:27:26: Sabine: I mean, I still hold out for some Yoda, but that will likely be Republic era.
25-12-22 03:27:55: Ada: There's a bit from Rebels but I guess Thrawn's the Big Bad there, and the Thrawn box they have is Rebels-themed, with ISB people.
25-12-22 03:27:56: Sabine: And I am a bit salty that they have given us two boxes of Ewoks but Zero jawas.
25-12-22 03:28:02: Ada: Hee.
25-12-22 03:28:40: Sabine: But they have somewhat made up for it because we are getting Qui Gon, Young Obi in a box coming this year.
25-12-22 03:28:49: Sabine: And the plot of Ahsokha as well.
25-12-22 03:28:57: Ada: Oh awesome. On both counts.
25-12-22 03:29:09: Ada: I saw a Baylan and Shani thing.
25-12-22 03:29:34: Sabine: https://i.redd.it/d1icj7iorpmb1.jpg
25-12-22 03:30:30: Sabine: https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/shatterpoint-ministravaganza-2025-preview/ Is all but one of the confirms for upcoming we know of
25-12-22 03:30:41: Sabine: Shin is nuts.
25-12-22 03:31:18: Sabine: Shin running off of Baylan is double nuts, though I don't have full cards yet to really confirm.
25-12-22 03:32:32: Ada: Oh, Shin, not Shani. Cool. I may some day actually play a game. There's something of a scene here, and it's not too sweaty; I just need to actually get to it, and have a thing about using unpainted minis besides.
25-12-22 03:36:49: Sabine: Well you seem to be almost done on minis. And I would suggest playing it if you can, it is probably the best minis game that has come out in a while.
25-12-22 03:37:03: Sabine: Since it isn't a game just about killing things.
25-12-22 03:42:57: Ada: I'll likely get something going in the new year.
25-12-22 03:44:10: Ada: My unpainted minis thing is that I just don't like seeing grey plastic on tables. It defeats the purpose for me. If it was actually the /game/ I really cared about, I'd play some video games.
25-12-22 03:44:40: Ada: But I've not done anything substantial since pre-pandemic, so I'm way out of the loop.
25-12-22 03:45:55: Ada: I may have grumbled about it before, but the shop I used to go to is all Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh now, its friendly and knowledgeable staff who were mostly just the owner's buddies have been replaced with interchangeable 20-year-olds, and it kind of smells.
25-12-22 03:50:51: Sabine: That would be the card players, yes.
25-12-22 03:51:45: Sabine: I try not to mind them, since their presence keeps my LGS in business. And I have the twin luxuries that one of the managers there would beat someone up if they get creepy with me, and I am now to old to get creeped on.
25-12-22 03:52:50: Sabine: So now it is me mostly being like 'Bitch, I could be your mom.'
25-12-22 03:56:03: Ada: That's something. The staff really set the tone, and I guess it going from people who were into the hobbies and generally agreeable to assorted dispassionate youngsters saw a change. Some air freshener wouldn't go amiss.
25-12-22 03:56:23: Sabine: Come armed with Febreeze and a will to use it.
25-12-22 04:03:54: Ada: lol. I'd say I'd stick to better premises, but the other place is an hour away, which is too much for a weekday, and honestly too much to really bother with at a weekend.
25-12-22 04:05:06: Ada: There are other places suited to meeting to play games though. Pubs with spaces.
25-12-22 04:13:23: Sabine: I want a pub. ;_;
25-12-23 01:54:18: Dietrich: There I was, staring the void in the face. The void stared back. It was an epic moment. A showdown if you will. Then we just agreed we were tired and took a nap.
25-12-23 02:57:44: Ada: Hopefully the nap was equally epic.
25-12-23 02:57:59: Dietrich: Of course.
25-12-23 02:58:06: Dietrich: I could use one right now too though
25-12-23 19:41:06: Sabine: Another year done, 28 more to go.
25-12-23 20:22:28: Eliza: Hey! Sorry I haven't been around. The rush of the holidays and end of the semester just knocked me out
25-12-23 20:28:29: Sabine: We know those feelings.
25-12-23 20:28:38: Sabine: But we missed you
25-12-23 20:28:50: Eliza: <3
25-12-23 20:30:24: Sabine: <3
25-12-23 20:35:45: Sabine: I must nap
25-12-23 21:09:15: Ada: I think it's that time of year for a lot of people, Eliza!
25-12-23 21:10:31: Ada: It's a pretty relaxed time for me, conversely. Work got very busy for the first two weeks of December then eased up.
25-12-29 03:06:37: Dietrich: Melissa, what did you get me for Christmas?
25-12-29 03:10:12: Ada: An assortment of costumes for Dietrich to try out seems in order.
25-12-29 03:10:33: Roland: a stuffed bear
25-12-29 03:12:01: Melissa: :slides you a bottle of cat antibiotics.
25-12-29 03:13:54: Irreth: Wow, you northerners give weird presents.
25-12-29 03:22:07: Dietrich: :eyes Melissa and eyes the bottle. "Did you give me roofies?"
25-12-29 03:22:15: Dietrich: Also, I shall take all these gifts!
25-12-29 03:22:36: Melissa: One never knows what another might need antibiotics for!
25-12-29 03:24:12: Melissa: I lost the broom behind the couch so to nudge my cat from behind the couch to give him his meds I went into the garage and grabbed the first thing attached to a stick I could find. It was a garden hoe. It worked and also saved the broom.
25-12-29 03:26:12: Melissa: I also havent slept in 38 hours and I need a nap. My cat stressed me out and couldnt walk without stumbling or falling over so we went to the emergency room and didnt get home till 4 am.
25-12-29 03:27:46: Ada: Oh gosh. Poor cat. Hope that cat recovers swiftly and that you get lots of sleep.
25-12-29 03:27:54: Irreth: Oh no, Melissa :( I went through that recently. Cat was super stressed from the move and had exactly those symptoms, it was pretty rough. Fingers crossed your furball is okay. Get some rest! <3
25-12-29 03:28:56: Dietrich: Poor furball. Go get some sleep
25-12-29 03:31:09: Melissa: The vet said that he has an ear infection, ruptured ear drum and kitty verdigo. He is home and cranky but taking all his meds and is eating so thats a good sign! I am trying not to let the guilt of not having 8k+ for all the tests that were recommended eat me alive.
25-12-29 03:32:39: Melissa: Also naming a cat Turtle causes some confusion so now he has become Turtle the Cat to everyone working in the vet hospital.
25-12-29 03:42:55: Dietrich: :names Melissa turtle
25-12-29 03:43:49: Koline: Prayers up for Turtle in the chat!
25-12-29 03:49:08: Irreth: Aww, Turtle the Cat <3
25-12-29 03:55:33: Ada: That's a great name. Bonus points if he's a tortoiseshell cat.
25-12-29 04:04:02: Melissa: He is not! But when he was born he kept flipping on his back and had trouble turning back over so after turning him right side up again I demanded to know why he wanted to be a turtle so badly. It stuck
25-12-29 04:05:39: Ada: Hee. Fabulous. :D
25-12-30 02:23:38: Dietrich: Hmmmmmmm
25-12-30 03:04:31: Ada: What's up, Dietrich?
25-12-30 03:09:48: Dietrich: Not too much, you?
25-12-30 03:17:24: Ada: Doing well! A little busy through to the start of January, running round to visit family, but good.
25-12-30 03:26:52: Dietrich: I feel that.
26-01-01 21:23:41: Ada: Happy new year, everyone!
26-01-01 22:12:01: Sabine: Happy Ada Year
26-01-01 22:19:12: Dietrich: Yo
26-01-01 22:20:06: Sabine: Yo
26-01-01 23:26:02: Ada: Hope everyone's 2026 is off to a good start! I'm home and back to normal presence from tomorrow.
26-01-01 23:39:17: Urumil: Happy new year to you Ada
26-01-02 18:14:19: Sabine: What if I just want Ada?
26-01-02 18:27:01: Ada: That comes as a separate DLC or ada-on pack.
26-01-02 18:45:42: Sabine: Oh no, and I spent all my money on the holidays. ;_;
26-01-02 19:07:06: Ada: Oh no. Also on which matter, 2025 was a great year for video game releases. Hope 2026 follows suit!
26-01-02 19:08:48: Sabine: We will see.
26-01-02 19:14:45: Urumil: they tend to come all at once and then there will be nothing because the great ones got overshadowed by a slightly greater one and failed
26-01-02 19:15:26: Ada: Obsidian after releasing Avowed last year.
26-01-02 19:15:46: Urumil: Yeah.  All because they all get released on the same week.
26-01-02 19:16:25: Urumil: although i suppose most people do not actually buy more than 1 or 2 games a year.  So I guess it makes sense overall.
26-01-02 19:16:50: Urumil: but from my point of view its like omg theres 20 good games come out this week and i only want 1.  But last month there was nothing.  Nothing.
26-01-02 19:17:21: Urumil: If you released this last week i would have bought it for sure.  Now its just not the most tasty of 20
26-01-02 19:19:45: Ada: I kind of think that happened with Avowed for me. I played it a few weeks after Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, and it was perfectly competent, but just that.
26-01-02 19:20:03: Ada: Kind of feel the same about the Outer Worlds 2 really. Makes me want to go back and play New Vegas instead.
26-01-02 19:20:04: Urumil: :needs to go back and replay kcd2
26-01-02 19:20:19: Ada: I might too, now they've put out all the DLC.
26-01-02 19:20:45: Urumil: Spacebourne is good if you want a space game.  Low budget but good.
26-01-02 19:20:56: Urumil: Spacebourne2 that is
26-01-02 19:21:14: Ada: I think I have that rattling around. It was janky as all get out but fun. :D
26-01-02 19:22:20: Ada: Felt like what you get if someone with my degree of programming ability and a surfeit of enthusiasm making a game.
26-01-02 19:22:32: Urumil: it went 1.0
26-01-02 19:22:46: Urumil: It was a lot less janky but yeah still a bit janky :P
26-01-02 19:22:59: Ada: Neat.
26-01-02 19:24:07: Urumil: Rebel Galaxy is the most memorable of weird games in that genre though.  Its all great music and broadsides.
26-01-02 19:25:44: Ada: It's really solid. I didn't like Outlaw much unfortunately.
26-01-02 19:26:26: Urumil: Golden Treasure the great green is fantastic too.  Totally different genre.  But great.
26-01-02 19:28:45: Ada: I'll pop it on my wishlist and see if I get time!
26-01-02 19:29:01: Sabine: I am just on everyones wishlist.
26-01-02 19:50:32: Ada: I'm even going to paint a Sabine next week.
26-01-02 19:52:30: Sabine: As one should
26-01-02 20:29:46: Sabine: Ada, who is our Gelt equivilant?
26-01-02 21:39:25: Ada: A much belated hello, guest!
26-01-02 21:41:02: Ada: A Warhammery Gelt, Sabine?
26-01-02 21:41:57: Guest1: hello, I was trying to figure out if this was related to the old Empire/Imperium MUDs
26-01-02 21:42:21: Ada: No relation at all.
26-01-02 21:42:45: Guest1: how sad, thank you though
26-01-03 00:18:32: Sabine: I fell asleep
26-01-06 15:05:39: Roland: Hello, everyboddy.
26-01-06 15:05:43: Roland: With one d, too.
26-01-07 14:44:21: Ada: Woo!
26-01-07 15:15:47: Eliza: Wooooo! I live! Mostly.
26-01-07 16:21:35: Ada: Hooray. Happy new year!
26-01-07 16:40:30: Bogdan: Woof.  Happy post-holidays!
26-01-07 16:40:50: Bogdan: Happy post holidays!
26-01-07 16:41:09: Bogdan: :ers.  Sorry.  Channel isn't local echo-ing to me.
26-01-07 17:55:53: Ada: Hey, Bogdan! Happy new year!
26-01-07 18:46:45: Eliza: Bogdan!
26-01-07 18:47:03: Bogdan: Eliza!
26-01-07 18:49:49: Penelope: It certainly is a new year. :D
26-01-07 19:05:20: Dietrich: Greetings.
26-01-07 19:12:16: Ada: Hey, Dietrich!
26-01-07 19:21:37: Dietrich: Heya
26-01-07 19:58:32: Ada: I'm going to go through all the outstanding actions soon to prompt people if I need anything from them but for you, Dietrich, I mostly just need to get you and Urumil online at once. I can do a when2meet thing!
26-01-07 19:59:24: Dietrich: I need an Urumil online too. I have to be dashing.
26-01-07 19:59:29: Dietrich: DASHING
26-01-08 02:13:37: Sabine: :sneezes.
26-01-09 01:56:13: Erika: Good evening!
26-01-09 02:03:08: Ada: Hey, Erika!
26-01-09 02:03:24: Erika: Howdy!
26-01-09 02:06:01: Sabine: :sneezes again.
26-01-09 02:43:37: Ada: Sabine, I hope you don't have a cold. Anyway, I say that just as I head to bed. Night!
26-01-09 02:43:45: Erika: Good night!
26-01-09 02:43:53: Sabine: Goodnight Ada, such is the power of Nagash
26-01-11 22:26:12: Ada: Hope everyone's having a superb Sunday.
26-01-15 16:42:22: Silja: Boo.
26-01-15 16:55:12: Penelope: To ourselves! :D
26-01-15 16:57:09: Silja: Clearly we're taking over, or something.
26-01-15 20:31:45: Ada: Hi hi, everyone.
26-01-15 20:39:38: Silja: Hey Ada.
26-01-15 20:46:03: Ada: Hey, Silja! How are things?
26-01-15 20:48:57: Silja: Not too too bad. How about you?
26-01-15 20:50:36: Ada: Good! Had a manky cold for a couple of days, but well over it. Looking forward to the longer days.
26-01-15 20:55:30: Silja: About a minute more a day here!
26-01-15 21:00:16: Ada: It's about two extra every day here - goes from 7.5 hours of daylight on the shortest day to 16.5 hours of daylight on the longest.
26-01-15 21:01:31: Silja: We're about 15 and a half on our longest.
26-01-16 22:04:58: Eliza: Woo! Is the website REALLY slow for anyone else?
26-01-16 22:35:27: Ada: Looks good to me!
26-01-17 00:44:52: Sabine: I am just really slow
26-01-17 00:45:03: Silja: :is also really slow.
26-01-17 01:14:46: Ada: Welcome, Tanith!
26-01-17 01:14:52: Tanith: Hi!
26-01-17 01:21:28: Irreth: Hi Tanith!
26-01-17 01:21:37: Silja: :waves!
26-01-17 01:21:59: Tanith: Good evening, everyone!
26-01-17 01:23:50: Tanith: So, uh, what's shaking? What's a new gal to do around here?
26-01-17 01:28:47: Ada: I can get a current hook or two for you. The go-to way of getting RP is probably prior arrangement rather than spontaneous (much as I do love the latter), so once you have a notion of who to contact, that should help!
26-01-17 01:29:09: Tanith: That would be lovely, Ada. Thank you!
26-01-17 02:50:55: Sabine: :opens an eye, tips Ada over.
26-01-17 02:53:16: Ada: River-tipping is how you get floods.
26-01-17 02:56:00: Sabine: Yeah I am fine with that
26-01-17 02:56:35: Ada: Sabine, the Lindners live in the middle of a river.
26-01-17 02:57:00: Tanith: ... fish people?
26-01-17 02:57:05: Sabine: And we have defied it the entire time.
26-01-17 02:58:05: Ada: The Lindners are more fight people.
26-01-17 02:58:25: Sabine: Including the river.
26-01-17 02:59:14: Sabine: It is all very https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqtHuEviR0 over here.
26-01-17 03:02:40: Sabine: Well half of it, the other half is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5XR48KLE8I
26-01-17 03:10:39: Ada: You should put a bagpipe warning on that.
26-01-17 03:10:56: Sabine: Our secret weapon.
26-01-18 03:06:35: Eliza: Woo!
26-01-18 03:06:48: Sabine: Woo!
26-01-18 03:08:29: Silja: Woo?
26-01-18 03:08:40: Sabine: Woo!
26-01-18 03:09:15: Silja: Woo!
26-01-18 03:09:40: Sabine: If you woo back at Eliza she runs away. ;_;
26-01-18 03:18:41: Tanith: Greetings, gentle folk.
26-01-18 03:19:53: Sabine: Hello
26-01-18 03:20:44: Ada: Hey, Tanith!
26-01-18 03:30:42: Eliza: I just get distracted with all the wooing
26-01-18 03:31:51: Ada: Woo!
26-01-18 03:33:18: Ada: Today, I briefly and inconclusively pondered whether it would be better to shift this game over to Ares. I struggle with the Ares format but I'm not sure that the traditional format is doing any favours here either.
26-01-18 03:33:41: Silja: Ares certainly has pros and cons.
26-01-18 03:35:01: Tanith: The persnickityness of spacing and indention is a con.
26-01-18 03:35:09: Ada: The basic question is 'Will people actually RP?' The frank answer to that is that they aren't doing so here, but a skim of Ares games reveals that (besides that there are only a few active games) there kind of isn't much going on on a bunch of them either.
26-01-18 03:38:56: Sabine: Ares is the devil, I have alas been sick.
26-01-18 03:39:08: Sabine: But now we have Eliza and I have fever dreams.
26-01-18 03:40:16: Ada: Hope you get better soon, Sabine!
26-01-18 03:40:38: Sabine: That being said, if you want my prophetic visions of doom. We are simply past the golden age of games like this, and are in the decline. Which is a shame because I was a real ass during the golden age.
26-01-18 03:40:59: Ada: It doesn't work for me as a player. I feel I need to do some sort of structural change here though to have anything other than a game where I run an event on the request of a few people twice a month. Which is fine, but, yeah, what you said.
26-01-18 03:41:42: Sabine: Well if you want me to get religious Ada.
26-01-18 03:41:55: Silja: :wants to have the bandwidth to be someone in charge, but does not. So I probably need a different character just to start.
26-01-18 03:43:14: Sabine: You don't have to become anything, this /place/ does not have to become anything. There is no goal, no destination, no place where we are it must get to. It is here, we are having fun, and that is all it ever needs to be.
26-01-18 03:43:21: Ada: I wouldn't worry about that, Silja.
26-01-18 03:44:19: Ada: This is true, Sabine, but I like telling stories, and I like being able to involve people. If it winds up with just a few people, that's all good, but then I need to restructure the overall vision a bit to account.
26-01-18 03:46:14: Sabine: I just don't want you being depressive about it all.
26-01-18 03:46:37: Sabine: Imma give Eliza a sword when I find her.
26-01-18 03:47:15: Eliza: I think we all just got too old. Stupid life and passage of time.
26-01-18 03:47:57: Ada: Oh, depressive's not quite right. Goodness knows I'm not short on hobbies. This is my effort to prod some life back into one I always loved.
26-01-18 03:48:01: Sabine: That is part of it.
26-01-18 03:48:29: Sabine: I suppose we could all just play Twilight Imperium, Ada.
26-01-18 03:49:59: Sabine: But I think we will be alright, small for a while maybe, but we will be alright.
26-01-18 03:51:10: Eliza: This is always a super busy time for me. I should have more time once spring semester starts and the kids' schedules are more set.
26-01-18 03:51:26: Sabine: :drags Eliza out.
26-01-18 03:51:33: Ada: Woo!
26-01-18 03:51:44: Eliza: I will only play with you if Hans the horse is still alive, Sabine.
26-01-18 03:51:47: Eliza: He's my favorite
26-01-18 03:52:03: Sabine: He has not died yet. A historical anomoly.
26-01-18 03:52:35: Sabine: Fortunetly for him Sabine is quite Alexander in her methods.
26-01-18 03:54:01: Ada: It's a wonder Alexander didn't die far sooner.
26-01-18 03:54:30: Sabine: Shhh, don't tell her that.
26-01-18 03:55:42: Sabine: Hmmm, but if I wanted to be in public, where would I be?
26-01-18 03:57:28: Sabine: I suppose I could just stand outside of Eliza's window at the Albalaski complex holding up a bard singing Peter Gabriel.
26-01-18 03:57:59: Ada: Their family quarters are all upstairs. You may need to stand on top of Hans.
26-01-18 03:58:24: Sabine: :looks to Ada
26-01-18 03:58:28: Sabine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Y8tFQ01OY
26-01-18 03:59:26: Sabine: Just replace the car with a horse or something.
26-01-18 04:00:47: Sabine: I got the boombox off some rats I met, obviously.
26-01-18 04:01:08: Ada: That guy has laudable upper body strength.
26-01-18 04:01:25: Sabine: He was also rich, given how many D cells that thing needs.
26-01-18 04:02:25: Ada: He's been eating warpstone and channeling that.
26-01-18 04:02:44: Sabine: I mean a little warpstone is good for you.
26-01-18 04:06:14: Sabine: I am sure it will be fine.
26-01-18 04:08:32: Ada: Anyway, at least there are no rats which would consume that here.
26-01-18 04:08:52: Sabine: That is exactly what they would want me to think.
26-01-18 04:12:43: Sabine: Lets go on an adventure Ada.
26-01-18 04:16:24: Tanith: :has coffee now. Mmm.
26-01-18 04:17:16: Tanith: So why are all the fantasy MUSHes these days so against players having magic? That's something I've seen over and over since Arx and especially its closure. Games start and either magic is unknown but hinted at or outright forbidden or something.
26-01-18 04:17:50: Sabine: In this case, the two things the setting primarily draws from.
26-01-18 04:18:56: Sabine: Though it is not entirely gone.
26-01-18 04:19:51: Sabine: But you will notice that we have not had a greytide since we got rid of the wizards.
26-01-18 04:20:48: Tanith: :is asking more from a game design perspective.
26-01-18 04:21:00: Tanith: Why that *choice* to make it part of the setting.
26-01-18 04:21:12: Sabine: Ada really likes Warhammer.
26-01-18 04:22:05: Sabine: It certainly was not a mechanical choice, I don't see how it would bork anything with the dice we use.
26-01-18 04:23:09: Ada: Hah. Yeah, it's basically down to drawing on a couple of things as inspiration. It moved its own way thereafter. Why magic stopped working, why the guy who imposed the ban left behind a blatantly magical artifact, so on, are things to mull over, but Warhammer and Dragon Age both left a mark on the writing.
26-01-18 04:23:31: Ada: Mechanically, it's not a big deal. There's even a 'Powers' category on character sheets, though hidden by default.
26-01-18 04:23:56: Sabine: He left it for a reason Ada.
26-01-18 04:24:06: Sabine: Also, I need to do my chapter 2 thing.
26-01-18 04:24:10: Ada: I batted back and forth the idea of having PC godtouched, then decided not, but I might revisit it.
26-01-18 04:24:16: Sabine: Thank you for reminding me.
26-01-18 04:25:57: Tanith: This isn't me poo-pooing your ideas, mind. It's just a pattern I see repeated on all the fantasy games that have cropped up in the last couple of years. And it always felt odd since so much of the RP I saw on Arx was about rediscovering magic - so people wanted to play it - and then everyone making decisions to not include it in games. It was a defining point of the hobby when I started (oh gods, 30 years ago), so I had to ask while the game devs were on and active. ;)
26-01-18 04:27:01: Sabine: It was mainly Arx that did that. To be fair Arx had a massive outsized effect on future L&L games, despite its... myriad... of flaws.
26-01-18 04:27:52: Sabine: That being said, I don't think there is anything but effort /stopping/ anyone from getting magic here, other than social consequences and the fact that I am pretty sure it involves directly touching the no-no zone to draw power from.
26-01-18 04:27:59: Ada: I had extremely little interaction with the magic stuff on Arx until basically the end of the game, so I may not have a great perspective on it!
26-01-18 04:28:21: Tanith: There were at least 2-3 Ares games that did it as well. I don't remember the first one - it had some cyclical battle with other forces and was doing timejump stuff and then died off. And... The Becoming, which I think is still active, but a little more steampunky.
26-01-18 04:30:31: Ada: Alveraxus, maybe? I didn't play it, but the timejump rings a bell.
26-01-18 04:31:53: Ada: I'd hazard a bit of it is that mechanics to support it are probably hard on paper. In practice, MUSH players mostly don't care about these things.
26-01-18 04:32:50: Tanith: That sounds like the right name, Ada.
26-01-18 04:35:43: Ada: I guess anyone tagging along with the Divine Assembly would see some blatant displays of magic.
26-01-18 04:37:09: Ada: Anyway, I first played a MUSH in 2017. I played a few MUDs before that, but it's a pretty different (frankly unhealthy) hobby.
26-01-18 04:39:46: Tanith: I started in 1997 and did Amber and Wheel of Time games for the first... long while, then World of Darkness. I never got into MUDs. i wanted the RP. I could play Zork if I wanted to type commands to fight monsters.
26-01-18 04:44:11: Ada: RP MUDs have RP but also problems to outdo the worst I've seen or heard of on MUSHes.
26-01-18 05:14:23: Sabine: I just have Ada and a dream
26-01-20 23:29:56: Melissa: Im sorry!
26-01-20 23:30:32: Koline: I forgive you! I think.
26-01-20 23:32:16: Melissa: All is right with the world if you do
26-01-20 23:36:45: Koline: Then I do.
26-01-21 00:14:13: Ada: Hey, Melissa! How are things?
26-01-21 02:08:07: Sabine: :sneeze
26-01-21 03:02:42: Ada: What's up, Sabine?
26-01-21 03:02:54: Sabine: My heart rate
26-01-21 03:15:31: Ada: Exercise is good for you, I guess.
26-01-21 03:22:44: Sabine: I was just excited to see Melissa.
26-01-28 21:42:28: Sabine: :sneezes.
26-01-28 21:42:44: Silja: :passes a tissue.
26-01-28 21:42:54: Ada: That's just how Sabine says hello.
26-01-28 21:43:02: Sabine: :nods.
26-01-28 21:45:11: Sabine: I am allergic to werewolves you see.
26-01-28 21:45:31: Ada: Does one live in your house? Is it shedding?
26-01-28 21:46:23: Silja: :didnt even bite you!
26-01-28 21:48:34: Sabine: They are always around where you least expect it.
26-01-28 21:51:50: Sabine: But I hope you have been well.
26-01-28 21:53:31: Ada: Apart from a cold pursuing me doggedly for the last couple of weeks, yes, quite well.
26-01-28 22:00:55: Sabine: Know that, got the flu, then got the snowstorm. And I still need to figure out what I am doing here.
26-01-28 22:01:43: Ada: There here or game here?
26-01-28 22:02:35: Sabine: Game here, there here is just to suffer under this weight of cold and ice.
26-01-28 22:03:14: Silja: It's -12C I'm done with winter.
26-01-28 22:03:26: Ada: Oh, fair. I'm going to run an event every other Saturday evening or something and just tick along through a story fairly linearly, accounting for any input people have.
26-01-28 22:03:50: Sabine: I am just a bit lost in the woods atm.
26-01-28 22:04:03: Sabine: Also, we don't use your weird French numbers.
26-01-28 22:04:05: Silja: That is my life, Sabine.
26-01-28 22:04:31: Silja: The lost part. The weird french numbers are pretty normal.
26-01-28 22:04:56: Sabine: Adrift, lost in the spoom
26-01-28 22:07:41: Ada: Game-wise, for those still around, I'm going to generally accelerate things. Rin wasn't going to invade anywhere until March in my originally intended timeline, but honestly, that was predicated on other parts of the game being engaged with.
26-01-28 22:12:05: Ada: I'm not going to put the game code out publicly because I can't claim it's in a bug-free state, and I don't plan to do further work on it, but if someone wants it anyway, they can just ask.
26-01-28 22:19:52: Sabine: Alas, I will be here until the very end
26-01-28 22:20:02: Sabine: Because I like you.
26-01-28 22:20:32: Ada: I figure there are in fact enough people to populate scheduled events reasonably.
26-01-28 23:53:02: Guest1: hello.
26-01-28 23:54:03: Ada: Hey, guest!
26-01-28 23:55:08: Guest1: Hi I just found this mud mentioned and was looking through the characters.  One of the ones I was interested in said talk to Ada before applying.  I presume that's you?
26-01-28 23:58:03: Ada: Yup!
26-01-29 00:00:28: Ada: I think that's just Albrecht and Sophia. In either case, the conversation's really as simple as a request from me that they be played per their personalities and backgrounds -- that's all.
26-01-29 00:00:50: Ada: That would apply
26-01-29 00:01:42: Ada: Whoops! That would apply to most characters to some extent, I suppose, but in their case, I'd just want any would-be player to be cognisant of it.
26-01-29 00:02:39: Guest1: ok, and yes it was one of those. When are people usually active here?
26-01-29 00:05:24: Ada: It's been fairly quiet, so RP would likely be by way of mailing someone to arrange times. I'm planning on shifting my GMing approach from being primarily responsive to player action, to instead fixed events, and I'm European, so it would be late Friday and Saturday my time to try to accommodate people at those events.
26-01-29 00:06:33: Sabine: Euros
26-01-29 00:06:41: Sabine: :shakes fist
26-01-29 00:09:06: Ada: All set, guest.
26-01-29 00:12:34: Sophia: Hello, I was guest1, just left to sign in as the character, thanks for the fast approval.
26-01-29 00:13:57: Sophia: is there a list of current trade agreements?  I see a mail saying someone is negotiating some, whether I need to be there to argue that we should keep them the same kind of depends on if we already have an agreement of some sort that might be disrupted.
26-01-29 00:17:46: Ada: No, nothing like that. Also, as of today, organisation resources aren't going to be taken into account, so trade things would be purely narrative. If that's something you enjoy RP around, by all means.
26-01-29 00:19:40: Sophia: oh ok.  just reading more of the histories and stuff to make sure my character doesn't faux pas something.  also starting to explore the world a bit.  seems theres a couple of other people on at least.
26-01-29 00:20:44: Ada: Orestes, Sophia's brother, also has a player, so is worth mailing.
26-01-29 00:24:43: Sabine: I am alas like a tick, but alas also at work for several more hours.
26-01-29 00:26:05: Silja: I'm putting my 'I think I'm getting a cold' self to bed.
26-01-29 00:26:20: Sophia: Oh dang hope you feel better silja.
26-01-29 00:26:39: Silja: I dont have /time/ for a cold. But I suppose no one does really.
26-01-29 00:27:19: Sophia: "Yes lets just schedule a three day meeting to have a cold during" i don't think i'd get away with that.
26-01-29 00:33:59: Sabine: That is just Ada atm.
26-01-29 00:35:33: Ada: I do have that going on. Anyway, I am also off to get some sleep. Good night!
26-01-29 00:35:55: Sophia: Ok good night everyone.  sent a mail to orestes I guess i'll check back tomorrow.
26-01-29 18:17:14: Sophia: Hi Prince Roland.  Do you want to do a scene?
26-01-29 18:20:58: Ada: Winter continues to pile all into just one week, here.
26-01-29 18:32:57: Sophia: lol were used to it here, i'm in WI haven't had anything we haven't dealt with before, business as usual, though there was a friday where some stuff closed temporarily because we were at -40
26-01-29 18:33:15: Sophia: guessing you're in the south somewhere?
26-01-29 18:33:39: Ada: Had to look up what WI is! I'm in Europe. :D
26-01-29 18:34:15: Ada: Winter where I live is just wet and stormy. Rarely especially cold, and snow comes maybe once a year.
26-01-29 18:34:57: Sophia: ah yeah so I'm just below canada by the great lakes is probably the best way to describe it.
26-01-29 18:35:08: Sophia: Europe wet and stormy so the UK?
26-01-29 18:36:01: Sophia: would also fit ada lovelace as the name
26-01-29 18:36:09: Ada: Nah. Ireland.
26-01-29 18:36:18: Sophia: dang  took a guess.
26-01-29 18:37:08: Ada: Hah! The name came in a roundabout way. When writing the setting, I'd jotted down "Adana" as the name for the empire, then I was like 'why', and the River Ada came into being.
26-01-29 18:37:18: Ada: Rather than it being from a person's name.
26-01-29 18:38:26: Sophia: Ah, alright, i'd never heard of anyone else named ada so being the dumb american i made an assumption.
26-01-29 18:38:43: Ada: It's a very reasonable assumption, to be fair!
26-01-29 18:40:01: Ada: Figured in the event the game ever needed more staff, they could use the setting's rivers. Consequently, there's one other staff account, Ineth, the person who wrote the character descriptions.
26-01-29 18:42:02: Sophia: Nice. Does ineth play VtM as well?
26-01-29 18:42:34: Ada: Nah, she's never played a WoD game and doesn't MU* at all, currently.
26-01-29 18:50:45: Sophia: ok, I'm still fairly new to roleplaying but i did partake in a VtM game that had an Ineth she was fun to play with.
26-01-29 18:53:16: Ada: I'm only really aware of one person in the MUSHing sphere who habitually carries over the same name from place to place. Definitely not a common practice.
26-01-29 18:53:34: Ada: Effie! What's new?
26-01-29 19:00:13: Sophia: oh hey other people are on now.  does anyone want to do a scene? i might be slow technicially at work yet but :) excited to get to meet peoples characters.
26-01-29 19:08:12: Ada: Bumbling along through various evening things, dinner, so on, myself.
26-01-29 19:16:30: Sophia: Ooh what's for dinner?
26-01-29 19:22:42: Ada: Halloumi pasta.
26-01-31 20:27:41: Sophia: Hello.
26-01-31 20:27:48: Sophia: How is everyone
26-01-31 21:09:49: Ada: Hey, Sophia! I'm doing well. How's your Saturday going?
26-02-01 02:00:06: Sophia: Been quiet about to go get drinks with family.
26-02-01 02:00:22: Sophia: was hoping people would be on today to rp and meet my character but alas no luck
26-02-02 19:34:23: Sophia: anyone want to do a scene
26-02-02 19:40:08: Sophia: ada do you want to do a scene?  lol seems were the only 2 ever on
26-02-02 19:40:59: Ada: It's my tabletop evening, otherwise I'd take you up! The way of new games nowadays, I'm afraid.
26-02-02 19:41:46: Sophia: ok yeah i have like 400 board games in my basement.  my wife and i try to play regularly and get things going.
26-02-02 19:41:56: Sophia: enjoy the tabletop night!
26-02-02 19:42:39: Ada: Thanks! If you're on another day of the week, I'll wheel out a character if time permits. Popped up an event for Saturday -- we'll see who's interested!
26-02-02 19:43:13: Sophia: i read it.  I don't think it fits something my character would be doing.
26-02-02 19:43:35: Sophia: I'll probably be on a bit earlier than now tomorrow but afk all night in my time because we have bowling.
26-02-02 19:47:50: Ada: Got it! And, yeah, unfortunately it may only fit a limited number of PCs. My theory when making the game was that people would RP around both what to do about major story beats as well as their orgs' 'happenings', which would present all sorts of situations, things to work out, dilemmas, whatever, but unfortunately that didn't really happen.
26-02-02 19:49:59: Sophia: Ok, I haven't even met another player yet and I think I've been here daily.  I hope i don't fall short of the idle player rules If a player goes 28 days without logging on to their character, that character will be returned to the roster of available characters. People whose characters are rostered are welcome to return to the game. If you expect to be gone for 28 days or longer, please submit a request.
26-02-02 19:51:05: Sophia: oops dropped myself but anyway hope i am not breaking the last rule where 'holding up other players by having a position of power and low activity.  I have tried to sign in daily
26-02-02 19:51:22: Ada: I've not bothered running an idle sweep in a bit. The majority of players picked up a character, logged in once, and that was that.
26-02-02 19:51:58: Ada: I don't expect any new influx of new people, so no need to do a sweep, really.
26-02-02 19:52:39: Sophia: oh :( that's sad.  the world sounds really interesting and cool.
26-02-02 19:53:26: Ada: I enjoyed writing it. I think that MUSHing as a hobby has just dwindled to nearly nothing.
26-02-02 20:10:03: Sophia: I like to read a lot, mushing isn't something i've ever done as much as i want to, but it's so much better than most video games or movies..you can build a story with other people.  and i'm the least creative person alive, but theres something about going 'right so my character a did this and person b responded with 1 and the consequences were this other thing...
26-02-03 15:13:15: Sophia: morning
26-02-03 16:24:30: Ada: What's up, Sophia? After (unfortunately) another quiet week, I'm going to see how quickly I could get a version of the game running in Ares instead, to see if that works out better for people.
26-02-03 17:05:16: Sophia: ok.  I have a few servers if you need space to host it for testing.
26-02-03 17:05:16: Sophia: ok.  I have a few servers if you need space to host it for testing.
26-02-03 17:06:49: Sophia: gah and now my terminal is freaking out at me lol.  anyway, ares seems alright and lets people who don't want to use a terminal client connect i suppose since i think that's the one where all the scenes are web pages.
26-02-03 17:11:30: Ada: I have server space but thanks for the offer! I prefer live scenes but, honestly, experience here is that people want live scenes on paper but, in practice, don't have the time to do them.
26-02-03 17:12:22: Ada: I'm not going to transfer the dice system from here for now - just going to use Ares' FS3 - nor, for that matter, the action system. Other features, well, Ares has them more or less out of the box in various forms.
26-02-03 17:21:43: Sophia: honestly the worst part is all the cool family tree stuff you have built in.  honestly probably easier to keep those pages and just link to them.
26-02-03 17:45:40: Ada: Oop, good shout. I forgot I'd even added that. :D Plus all the 'glossary' on the wiki (i.e. the way to see a short summary of info)
26-02-03 18:03:54: Urumil: :apologises for not being around.  I ended up moving home.
26-02-03 18:07:39: Sophia: hi urumil do you want to do a scene?  be the first to meet my character
26-02-03 18:08:09: Sophia: ada if you need help moving stuff I wont be around much tonight but i should have some time tomorrow.
26-02-03 18:08:23: Urumil: absolutely
26-02-03 18:15:41: Ada: Moving home's never fun. Hope you're well settled!
26-02-03 18:15:56: Urumil: :still has boxes all over but otherwise i think so
26-02-03 18:19:40: Sophia: I moved 3 years ago and our basement crawlspace and the third garage are still full of things we haven't unpacked.  I want to throw it all out (haven't used it in three years it's jsut taking space) but :/ yay family.
26-02-03 18:20:38: Urumil: :has a bit of that.  I've been building a "box of things i probably dont need" and my parents vaccilate between trying to throw it away and being all "But you can use that"
26-02-03 18:20:56: Urumil: And I'm like.  Thats why the box lives there until the end!
26-02-03 18:28:15: Ada: Four years since I moved last, no plans to do so again anytime soon. The spare room houses things that never quite got a home post move.
26-02-03 18:28:49: Urumil: :wasnt really expecting it so soon.  I was always hearing that the waiting list was 3 years.
26-02-03 18:29:55: Sophia: ? how do you have a waiting list for your house, like the previous owners said we'll sell in 3 years?  That's a long time planned move, even if they were building new and knew they were going to sell.
26-02-03 18:30:33: Urumil: It's a housing charity
26-02-03 18:30:45: Urumil: Social housing as it were.
26-02-03 18:31:05: Sophia: Oh, we don't really have that here.
26-02-03 18:34:10: Urumil: It's an adapted place.
26-02-03 18:35:19: Urumil: It used to be government housing but now its mostly a few charities that run this sort of thing.  Being non-profit they can offer actually affordable rents and stuff.  Hence the waiting lists.
26-02-03 18:37:29: Sophia: neat.  I'm not sure i'd sell my house to live in gov/charity housing even if my mortgage is high.  On the up side once it's paid off our cost of living goes down to peanuts in comparison.  The real advantage is however much you can put into retirement instead of the mortgage/rent and hope that interest rate outpaces housing costs.
26-02-03 18:37:34: Ada: We have a mix of state-provided social housing and approved housing bodies which build and sell at cost, and then a few other organisations doing cost rental schemes and so on.
26-02-03 18:38:39: Sophia: there's places with reduced rent I think, but it's basically if you are over 60 or can't work to be eligible for most of it.
26-02-03 18:39:06: Urumil: Yeah thats basically it
26-02-03 18:40:19: Ada: I'd have taken it over buying if I had been eligible, but we have a crippling housing crisis and I meet none of the criteria for getting social housing.
26-02-03 18:40:21: Urumil: This one is called Liverpool Mutual Homes which has a bunch of related ones and they do social housing and retirement communities and shared ownership schemes etcetc.
26-02-03 18:40:58: Ada: Liverpool's a great city. Visiting, anyway! Have to assume it's also good to live in.
26-02-03 18:41:43: Urumil: Its a good city aye.
26-02-03 18:42:56: Urumil: But on the selling home thing I wouldnt do that either but i got sick too young to have bought property.  Although I was trying to at the time.
26-02-03 18:44:23: Urumil: Anyway.  I got on the list expecting a 3 year waiting list and then like 2 and a half months later it was like "You get the keys on the 6th jan."
26-02-03 18:44:33: Ada: Neat. :D
26-02-03 18:44:49: Urumil: Always great when you end up having to move over xmas.
26-02-03 18:45:41: Urumil: Luckily I had a good amount tucked away in savings.  So it was very doable.
26-02-03 18:46:06: Urumil: Even if I did have to get the place completely redecorated
26-02-03 18:46:17: Urumil: as a bonus i now have a completely redecorated place though
26-02-03 18:55:21: Sophia: nice.  our decorations are mostly stuff we got used, also not good if you're ill, hopefully you're seeing a doctor?
26-02-03 18:56:23: Ada: Redecorating while not well settled in the place is the only way I could put up with it really.
26-02-03 18:57:28: Urumil: yeah. Getting it all done before truly moving was wonderful
26-02-21 18:35:04: Guest1: Hello?